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A roomy, well-built middle-of-the-road cruiser with both aft and center cockpit versions.
The history of S2 Yachts is in many ways a parable for the modern fiberglass sailboat industry. Begun in 1974 by an experienced fiberglass builder, the company grew rapidly, building first some unattractive “two-story” cruisers, followed by a series of conventional cruiser-racers in the late ’70s and early ’80s, then a successful fleet of race-oriented cruisers in the mid ’80s. Finally, as sailboat sales took a nosedive in the late ’80s, the company converted its entire production to powerboats.
In late 1989, the company was approached by the class association of its popular 26′ racer, the S2 7.9. Would the company be willing to do a small run of 7.9s for those serious racers who wanted to replace their seven-to nine-year-old boats? The company thought it over and said, yes—provided they could be guaranteed 10 orders.
As we write this, the class association and S2 dealers around the country have been unable to come up with the 10 orders, and the company has cancelled the offering, perhaps the end of sailboat building by this prosperous company, and perhaps also an unfortunate commentary on the sailboat industry.
During its heyday, S2 developed a strong reputation for good quality boats. The company was founded by Leon Slikkers after he had sold his powerboat company, Slickcraft. As part of the sales agreement, he was not to make powerboats for a period of time, but there was no restraint on sailboat building. So he built a new plant which was, at the time, a model for production-line efficiency. Among other things, the hulls were laid up in an enclosed, climate-controlled room, and they remained in molds until most of the interior was installed to ensure that there was as little deformation of the basic molding as possible.
In the late 1970s, S2 did start building powerboats again, and soon established its Tiara line at the top end of the market. As evidence of Slikkers’ insight into the business (as well as a bit of luck, perhaps), when the conglomerate that owned Slickcraft began to see declining sales in the early ’80s, S2 was able to buy Slickcraft back at a fraction of its original sale price. And of course, S2 enjoyed the boom in powerboat buying which accompanied the decline in sailboat sales during the mid and late ’80s.
From the start, Slikkers also assembled an experienced crew of builders and sellers from the local area. At the time, Holland, Michigan, was the home of Chris Craft as well as Slickcraft and several other smaller powerboat builders.
The company continues today with a strong crew, managed primarily by Slikkers’ son, David, and other family members. The company personnel helped establish a reputation for good relationships with S2 owners, a reputation which continues, even though the company is no longer in the sailboat business.
In preparing this story, we talked with a number of S2 9.2 owners who reported that they are still able to get information, advice, and some parts and equipment from the company.
The Boat and Builder
As its nomenclature suggests, S2 Yachts was one of those few American companies willing to commit to the metric system when the government said it would be a good thing to do. The 9.2 stands for 9.2 meters, as with the company’s other boats (7.3, 7.9, 10.3, etc.). S2 stuck with the classification for a long time, only advertising the 9.2 as the S2 30 after it had been in production for years (not to be confused with the later S2 30 designed by Graham & Schlageter).
The boat overall is 29′ 11″, the most common length of 30-footers in those days when one of the popular racing rules—the Midget Ocean Racing Club (MORC)—required boats to be “under 30 feet.” The boat was built in two configurations, from 1977 to 1987. The 9.2C was a center-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 427. The 9.2A was the aft-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 520.
From talking to the company, it is unclear whether the hull numbers represent the actual number of boats built. In the 70s, it was not unusual for companies as part of their marketing strategy, to start a production run with hull number 10, or even hull number 100, so that a model would appear to be more popular or successful than it actually was. The people currently at S2 simply didn’t know if that had been done, but we suspect the total of 947 hull numbers is more than the actual number of S2 9.2s built. Nonetheless, the 9.2 had a successful run.
The 9.2 was designed by Arthur Edmunds, who was S2’s “in-house” designer. Beginning in 1981, S2 built a number of racing-oriented cruisers designed by the Chicago naval architects Scott Graham and Eric Schlageter, but all of the earlier cruising boats were done by Edmunds. Edmunds also contributed engineering and design detail to Graham & Schlageter’s hull designs.
We would describe the 9.2 design—and all of Edmunds’ S2s—as moderate and conventionally modern. The hull has short overhangs, a relatively flat sheer, a long fin keel, and spade rudder. The boats are reasonably attractive, and the aft-cockpit model has pleasing proportions. The center-cockpit model has a high, boxy superstructure whose profile is relieved by good contour moldings of the deckhouse, cockpit, and aft cabin.
One advantage of the conventional looks of the 9.2 is that it is not likely to go out of fashion—a plus for the boat holding its value. Though the rigs were identical on all versions, shallow-draft keels were a popular option; these reduced the draft from 4′ 11″ to 3′ 11″. The deeper keel doesn’t seem excessive for most waters and is our choice. The lead ballast is internal. S2 did a good job of embedding and sealing the lead in the keel cavity, so leaking should be minimal even in a hard grounding.
The hull is a conservative hand-laid laminate, and the deck is balsa-cored. S2 used a conventional inward-turning flange to attach the deck, with an aluminum toerail for protecting the joint. S2 is known for good glass work, particularly gelcoats, and almost all the used 9.2s that we have seen still are cosmetically good or recoverable with a good rubbing out.
Sailing Performance
‘Adequate’ would be a good way to describe the sailing performance of the 9.2. The boat came with a deck-stepped Kenyon spar and North sails as standard, later with Hall or Offshore spars. The rigging and other sailing hardware was good enough in quality that little re-rigging or upgrading is likely to be needed.
The used 9.2 we examined thoroughly, for example, had internal halyards, reef lines and outhaul, a good Harken mainsheet traveler, Lewmar #8 halyard winches, and two-speed Lewmar #30s for the jib sheets. On the down-side, every equipment list of used S2s we looked at listed the original North sails, with an occasional newer furling genoa. One disadvantage of a late model boat with good gear is that the owner is less likely to upgrade before he sells it, so the second owner probably will be facing the purchase of new sails.
When we sailed a shoal-draft 9.2, our initial reaction was surprise at its tenderness. Other owners in our survey agree that the shoal-draft model heels fairly easily, and a number thought that even the deeper draft model was tender. Several reported that you need to reduce sail fairly early to keep the boat on its feet and sailing well.
The boat sails reasonably well. The one we were on, however, would not go to weather decently—a combination of the shoal draft and a well-worn suit of sails. On other points, the boat was respectable. Close and broad reaching, it moved very well and was just a bit sluggish running.
She’s not a fast boat by contemporary standards. In most areas, the 9.2 carries a PHRF rating of 180 seconds per mile (six seconds slower for the shoalkeel), which is six seconds per mile slower than a Pearson 30 and 12 to 15 seconds slower than the popular Catalina 30 with a tall rig. In contrast, the 9.2’s racing-oriented sister, the S2 9.1, a 30-footer, rates 50 seconds per mile faster.
On the plus side, the boat is easy to sail, with a good balance between main and jib sail area. The running rigging and deck hardware is well set up. Oddly, not one equipment list for used 9.2s that we looked at had a spinnaker or spinnaker gear, an indication that the boat is rarely raced. However, if someone is interested in an occasional club race, the boat should sail up to its rating, assuming the sails are good and the boat well handled.
The deck is well laid out, though the walkways are a bit narrow for getting forward, and there’s a considerable step up into the center cockpit. Details of the deck—anchor well, bow fittings, cleats, halyard runs, and so forth—are well executed.
Performance Under Power
A few of the 1977/1978 boats were sold with an Atomic 4 gas engine. After 1979, diesels were installed. Through 1984, the engines were 12-hp or 15-hp Yanmars, or 12-hp Volvos. In 1985, a Yanmar 23 was optional.
The Atomic 4 was a good engine for the boat, as was the Yanmar 23. However, a number of owners report that the boat is underpowered with the Yanmar 12 and 15, and the Volvo 12. For a 10,000 pound boat, 12 to 15 hp would be adequate by traditional standards, but many sailors seem to want a little more these days. The Yanmar 15 in the boat we sailed had no trouble pushing the boat in calm waters, but the owner did say that the boat couldn’t buck any kind of head sea. For some, the optional Yanmar 23 will make the later models more desirable.
In the center-cockpit model, many owners complained about the inaccessibility of one side of the engine and the difficulty of getting at the dipstick, but otherwise the engine was serviceable. A few boats were apparently sold with raw-water cooling rather than a heat exchanger. We’d be cautious about one of the older boats with raw-water cooling unless it had been kept exclusively in fresh water.
The interior was undoubtedly the strong selling point of the boat. For the most part, the belowdecks finish is well done, and there’s about as much usable room below as you could get without making the hull significantly larger.
S2 was one of the first sailboat builders to use fabric as a hull liner, and it became almost a trademark of S2 interiors. The fabric is a neutral-colored polypropylene, treated to be mildew resistant. When we first saw the fabric, we were skeptical, wondering how it would hold up to saltwater soakings. But having owned a smaller S2 for five years, we finally became converts; in fact, in refitting our current boat, we used the fabric extensively, rather than replacing aged vinyl and wood veneer ceilings. The fabric is contact-cemented to the hull, and it holds up amazingly well, absorbing virtually no water. It is quite resistant to mildew and stains. The new owner of an S2 will want to find a good, compact wet/dry vacuum cleaner, which is the required maintenance equipment for the fabric.
The rest of the interior has teak veneer plywood, Formica, and solid teak trim, and the workmanship is good. Layouts changed little throughout the production of the boats. The aft-cockpit model is conventional, with a V-berth that is a bit short, a large head and hanging locker, a large dinette/settee with a settee opposite, and an L-shaped galley with a chart area/quarter berth opposite. There’s adequate stowage under the berths and decent outside stowage in the lazarettes.
The center-cockpit model moves the main cabin forward and the head aft, near to and partially underneath the center cockpit. The galley is opposite the head, running lengthwise down the port side of the cabin and partially under the cockpit. The aft-cabin is roomy, with an athwartship double berth and good locker space. The shortcoming of the center cockpit is that there is virtually no outside storage.
Choosing between the center and aft cockpit is largely a matter of personal preference. With children, or two couples cruising, the aft cabin is hard to beat for livability.
Overall, the interiors are well enough designed and executed that little major work or upgrading should be necessary on most used boats. Many people will want to replace the alcohol stoves on earlier models, perhaps add refrigeration (or replace the original Unifridge), and perform the normal long-term maintenance of re-upholstering, but otherwise the interiors should need little major attention.
Conclusions
The S2s were well-built. Whereas other production companies frequently cheapened or upgraded models from year to year to find marketing niches, S2 made boats to sell near the high end of the production boat market, and kept the quality at a consistent level.
The 9.2s have maintained their value about as well as any 30-footer in the current market. Because the only significant advantage of the 1986 model is the larger Yanmar engine and newer equipment, we would gladly take one of the older 9.2s at a lower price, since the necessary upgrades could easily be done (sails, cushions, electronics) and the final cost would still be much lower than the newer boat.
It’s easy to pay too much money for a used boat these days, but S2 owners generally think they have a good product, and they’ll probably be harder to dicker with than many sellers.
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1984 S2 6.9 Grand Slam
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Seller's Description
The owner bought this boat in 2007
General condition and any additional information
This S2 has spent most of its life under a roof and is in great condition.
Sail Inventory: 2 main sails one which was purchased for racing years ago. 1 jib 1 genoa 1 asymmetric spinnaker. Also all of these sails have been packed away for 5 years away from vermin.
Standard features
The S2 6.9 22 is sloop rig, centerboard, outboard kick-up rudder, and deck stepped mast. Her hull is hand-laid fiberglass with end-grain balsa core sandwich construction. She offers a V-berth, port and starboard settee berths, galley area with ice box and work space, and a porta-potti area with cabinet/shelf. Teak cabin sole. Headroom is 46 and mast height is 320. The pocket version of the formidable 7.9, designed to match performance aspects in a reduced size. A good all-around club racer daysailer, with accommodations that make her a weekend cruiser. The proportionally large mainsail and high aspect fractional rig give her acceleration and quickness yet responsiveness and control for any sailing condition. The efficient deck layout, streamlined cabin top, and wide walkways coupled with stainless steel bow rail and lifelines assure safe passge forward. All sail controls are led aft to the self-draining cockpit which features body contoured seating for optimum crew comfort and sailing ease. Mast is easily stepped by team of two, plus kick-up rudder and vertical retracting keel offer the maximum in versatility in launching, beaching and trailing. Wide 8-foot beam assures stability and opens up a cozy cabin for four, private head area, and built-in ice box in a roomy, care-free interior perfect for the sailing family or racing crew. The assurance of S2 quality is evident in engineering, performance, craftsmanship, and attention to detail throughout. These high construction standards and the baltek core construction technique provide the consistency necessary for S2 to offer this pocket racer for one-design or handicap racing at any level.
Extra gear included
6.0 HP 4 Stroke Mercury Outboard (Low Usage, Refurbished since last usage).
Accompanied Trailer for s2.
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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
S2 6.9 GRAND SLAM. The same hull as the S2 6.7 (designed by S2 in-house designer Don Wennersten), with changes to the cabin, cockpit, and sailplan overseen by G&S. (Thanks to Bob Proctor for providing updated information on this yacht.)
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AKA the Grand Slam 7.9 Sail area: -Main: 180 ft² / 16.72 m² -Jib: 149 ft² / 13.84 m² A few (17) were delivered with a fixed keel and masthead rig. (See S2 7.9FK for specs.) Inboard power available as an option… BMW 7.5 hp diesel.
The boat stayed in production up until S2 shut down its sailboat operations in 1986. Designed by the Chicago-based naval architects Scott Graham and Eric Schlageter, the 7.9 was the first in a series of competitive production boats. The series was originally called "Grand Slam," but the company later dropped the designation.
Sailboat • $5,000 • 1983 • S-2 7.9 Grand Slam • TIARA/S-2 YACHTS. Designed by Graham & Schlageter and built by Tiara Yachts of Holland MI, the 7.9 meter was one of the other Grand Slam series of racer/cruisers that enjoyed a great run of nearly 550 hulls starting in 1981. S-2 also had a line of family cruisers which were successful in ...
The S2 7.9, originally called the Grand Slam 7.9, is an American sailboat that was designed by Graham & Schlageter as a one-design and Midget Ocean Racing Club (MORC) racer-cruiser and first built in 1979.
The S2 6.7 Grand Slam is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Don Wennersten as a racer-cruiser and first built in 1980. The designation indicates the approximate length overall in meters. [1] [2] [3] The S2 6.7 was developed into the S2 6.9 in 1983. [4]
The S2 6.9, also marketed as the S2 6.9 Grand Slam, is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Don Wennersten and Graham & Schlageter as racer-cruiser and first built in 1983. The designation indicates the approximate length overall in meters. [1] [2] [3] [4]The S2 6.9 is a development of the 1980 S2 6.7. [1] [3] It was later developed into the wing keel-equipped S2 22 in 1985.
The boat was designed by Scott Graham and Eric Schlageter, principals of Chicago-based G&S naval architecture firm. The 7.9 was originally marketed as the Grand Slam, but later the name was dropped and it became the 7.9. It was built from 1982 through 1987, and again in 1990 through 1994. In total, 546 boats were built.
The history of S2 Yachts is in many ways a parable for the modern fiberglass sailboat industry. Begun in 1974 by an experienced fiberglass builder, the company grew rapidly, building first some unattractive "two-story" cruisers, followed by a series of conventional cruiser-racers in the late '70s and early '80s, then a successful fleet of race-oriented cruisers in the mid '80s.
The 7.9 was designed for S2 Yachts by Scott Graham and Eric Schlageter. The 1982 model year was introduced in late 1981 and was originally marketed as the "Grand Slam," although that designator was later dropped, and the model was simply known as the S2 7.9. It remained in production until S2 ceased production of all its models in 1986.
S2 7.9 - Practical Sailor. Since 1974, Practical Sailor's independent testing has taken the guesswork out of boat and gear buying. www.practical-sailor.com. The association reports 400 were built. Designed to be a one class racing boat.
1 - 5'. Mississippi. $3,700. Description: 1982 S2 Yachts 7.9 Grand Slam trailerable sailboat. Begin your sailing adventures today, everything to enjoy your time is included. The sailboat has had the diesel engine and fuel tank removed to allow for additional storage space underneath the cockpit and replaced with a new 2021 Mercury 5hp Sail ...
Sail Inventory: 2 main sails one which was purchased for racing years ago. 1 jib 1 genoa 1 asymmetric spinnaker. Also all of these sails have been packed away for 5 years away from vermin. ... S2 6.9 GRAND SLAM. The same hull as the S2 6.7 (designed by S2 in-house designer Don Wennersten), with changes to the cabin, cockpit, and sailplan ...
S2 Yachts discription:"The non-masterhead rig and sailplan is planned to give an optimal mix of easy handling and great speed. The high aspect-ratio foretriangle is especially good for jib reaches and upwind (particularly so in conjunction with 150% Genoa)while the large low aspect-ratio mainsail is easy to adjust for a wide range of wind speeds.
S2 6.9 GRAND SLAM. The same hull as the S2 6.7 (designed by S2 in-house designer Don Wennersten), with changes to the cabin, cockpit, and sailplan overseen by G&S. (Thanks to Bob Proctor for providing updated information on this yacht.)
Jun 8, 2004. 10,196. -na -NA Anywhere USA. May 27, 2015. #3. ODay has been out of business since 1989. S2 is still around but building power but not sure if they are even building sailboats now but if they are it would be the larger ones. They were considered good boats. Both boats would be 25 years old or older but in their time, both sailed ...
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The S2 5.5, also called the Grand Slam 5.5, is an American sailing dinghy that was designed by Don Wennersten as a racer and day sailer and first built in 1982. The designation indicates the approximate length overall in meters. [1] [2] The design was the smallest boat S2 Yachts produced and its only dingy model. [3] [4]
AKA S2 6.7 GRAND SLAM. Thanks to Bob Proctor for providing updated information for this yacht. A few boats were turned out with a fixed keel.(draft: 4.5') Sailboat Forum. View All Topics: ... Kelsall Sailing Performance (KSP): Another measure of relative speed potential of a boat. It takes into consideration "reported" sail area ...
Large Boat Sailing Photography Framed Art Print Framed Nautical. $40. Odenton Tartan 34 C Sloop. $7,500. Galesville 22' S2 6.7 Grand Slam Sailboat. $2,500. Annapolis modern Penguin sailboat #9696. $2,900. MOORESTOWN 1977 Pearson 10m. $13,000. lewes 1946 Hinckley Sou'wester 34. $0 ...
22' S2 6.7 Grand Slam Sailboat. $2,500. Annapolis modern Penguin sailboat #9696. $2,900. MOORESTOWN 1977 Pearson 10m. ... 1946 Hinckley Sou'wester 34. $0. Davidsonville C420. $1. Annapolis Laser ILCA 6 Sailboat & 6 Racing Sails & HikingBench. $6,000. Annapolis 9' Avon Inflatable Dingy. $300.
S2 Yachts: Designer: Don Wennersten: Sailboat Calculations Definitions ... AKA S2 5.5 GRAND SLAM. Thanks to Bob Proctor for providing updated information for this yacht. ... Calculations Help. SA/Disp.: A sail area/displacement ratio below 16 would be considered under powered; 16 to 20 would indicate reasonably good performance; above 20 ...
22' S2 6.7 Grand Slam Sailboat. $2,500. Annapolis modern Penguin sailboat #9696. $2,900. MOORESTOWN 1977 Pearson 10m. ... C420. $1. Annapolis 9' Avon Inflatable Dingy. $300. Annapolis Laser ILCA 6 Sailboat & 6 Racing Sails & HikingBench. $6,000. Annapolis BRAND NEW never sold 10' Trinka Row & Motor Boat. $1. Va. Beach , VA.