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A roomy, well-built middle-of-the-road cruiser with both aft and center cockpit versions.
The history of S2 Yachts is in many ways a parable for the modern fiberglass sailboat industry. Begun in 1974 by an experienced fiberglass builder, the company grew rapidly, building first some unattractive “two-story” cruisers, followed by a series of conventional cruiser-racers in the late ’70s and early ’80s, then a successful fleet of race-oriented cruisers in the mid ’80s. Finally, as sailboat sales took a nosedive in the late ’80s, the company converted its entire production to powerboats.
In late 1989, the company was approached by the class association of its popular 26′ racer, the S2 7.9. Would the company be willing to do a small run of 7.9s for those serious racers who wanted to replace their seven-to nine-year-old boats? The company thought it over and said, yes—provided they could be guaranteed 10 orders.
As we write this, the class association and S2 dealers around the country have been unable to come up with the 10 orders, and the company has cancelled the offering, perhaps the end of sailboat building by this prosperous company, and perhaps also an unfortunate commentary on the sailboat industry.
During its heyday, S2 developed a strong reputation for good quality boats. The company was founded by Leon Slikkers after he had sold his powerboat company, Slickcraft. As part of the sales agreement, he was not to make powerboats for a period of time, but there was no restraint on sailboat building. So he built a new plant which was, at the time, a model for production-line efficiency. Among other things, the hulls were laid up in an enclosed, climate-controlled room, and they remained in molds until most of the interior was installed to ensure that there was as little deformation of the basic molding as possible.
In the late 1970s, S2 did start building powerboats again, and soon established its Tiara line at the top end of the market. As evidence of Slikkers’ insight into the business (as well as a bit of luck, perhaps), when the conglomerate that owned Slickcraft began to see declining sales in the early ’80s, S2 was able to buy Slickcraft back at a fraction of its original sale price. And of course, S2 enjoyed the boom in powerboat buying which accompanied the decline in sailboat sales during the mid and late ’80s.
From the start, Slikkers also assembled an experienced crew of builders and sellers from the local area. At the time, Holland, Michigan, was the home of Chris Craft as well as Slickcraft and several other smaller powerboat builders.
The company continues today with a strong crew, managed primarily by Slikkers’ son, David, and other family members. The company personnel helped establish a reputation for good relationships with S2 owners, a reputation which continues, even though the company is no longer in the sailboat business.
In preparing this story, we talked with a number of S2 9.2 owners who reported that they are still able to get information, advice, and some parts and equipment from the company.
The Boat and Builder
As its nomenclature suggests, S2 Yachts was one of those few American companies willing to commit to the metric system when the government said it would be a good thing to do. The 9.2 stands for 9.2 meters, as with the company’s other boats (7.3, 7.9, 10.3, etc.). S2 stuck with the classification for a long time, only advertising the 9.2 as the S2 30 after it had been in production for years (not to be confused with the later S2 30 designed by Graham & Schlageter).
The boat overall is 29′ 11″, the most common length of 30-footers in those days when one of the popular racing rules—the Midget Ocean Racing Club (MORC)—required boats to be “under 30 feet.” The boat was built in two configurations, from 1977 to 1987. The 9.2C was a center-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 427. The 9.2A was the aft-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 520.
From talking to the company, it is unclear whether the hull numbers represent the actual number of boats built. In the 70s, it was not unusual for companies as part of their marketing strategy, to start a production run with hull number 10, or even hull number 100, so that a model would appear to be more popular or successful than it actually was. The people currently at S2 simply didn’t know if that had been done, but we suspect the total of 947 hull numbers is more than the actual number of S2 9.2s built. Nonetheless, the 9.2 had a successful run.
The 9.2 was designed by Arthur Edmunds, who was S2’s “in-house” designer. Beginning in 1981, S2 built a number of racing-oriented cruisers designed by the Chicago naval architects Scott Graham and Eric Schlageter, but all of the earlier cruising boats were done by Edmunds. Edmunds also contributed engineering and design detail to Graham & Schlageter’s hull designs.
We would describe the 9.2 design—and all of Edmunds’ S2s—as moderate and conventionally modern. The hull has short overhangs, a relatively flat sheer, a long fin keel, and spade rudder. The boats are reasonably attractive, and the aft-cockpit model has pleasing proportions. The center-cockpit model has a high, boxy superstructure whose profile is relieved by good contour moldings of the deckhouse, cockpit, and aft cabin.
One advantage of the conventional looks of the 9.2 is that it is not likely to go out of fashion—a plus for the boat holding its value. Though the rigs were identical on all versions, shallow-draft keels were a popular option; these reduced the draft from 4′ 11″ to 3′ 11″. The deeper keel doesn’t seem excessive for most waters and is our choice. The lead ballast is internal. S2 did a good job of embedding and sealing the lead in the keel cavity, so leaking should be minimal even in a hard grounding.
The hull is a conservative hand-laid laminate, and the deck is balsa-cored. S2 used a conventional inward-turning flange to attach the deck, with an aluminum toerail for protecting the joint. S2 is known for good glass work, particularly gelcoats, and almost all the used 9.2s that we have seen still are cosmetically good or recoverable with a good rubbing out.
Sailing Performance
‘Adequate’ would be a good way to describe the sailing performance of the 9.2. The boat came with a deck-stepped Kenyon spar and North sails as standard, later with Hall or Offshore spars. The rigging and other sailing hardware was good enough in quality that little re-rigging or upgrading is likely to be needed.
The used 9.2 we examined thoroughly, for example, had internal halyards, reef lines and outhaul, a good Harken mainsheet traveler, Lewmar #8 halyard winches, and two-speed Lewmar #30s for the jib sheets. On the down-side, every equipment list of used S2s we looked at listed the original North sails, with an occasional newer furling genoa. One disadvantage of a late model boat with good gear is that the owner is less likely to upgrade before he sells it, so the second owner probably will be facing the purchase of new sails.
When we sailed a shoal-draft 9.2, our initial reaction was surprise at its tenderness. Other owners in our survey agree that the shoal-draft model heels fairly easily, and a number thought that even the deeper draft model was tender. Several reported that you need to reduce sail fairly early to keep the boat on its feet and sailing well.
The boat sails reasonably well. The one we were on, however, would not go to weather decently—a combination of the shoal draft and a well-worn suit of sails. On other points, the boat was respectable. Close and broad reaching, it moved very well and was just a bit sluggish running.
She’s not a fast boat by contemporary standards. In most areas, the 9.2 carries a PHRF rating of 180 seconds per mile (six seconds slower for the shoalkeel), which is six seconds per mile slower than a Pearson 30 and 12 to 15 seconds slower than the popular Catalina 30 with a tall rig. In contrast, the 9.2’s racing-oriented sister, the S2 9.1, a 30-footer, rates 50 seconds per mile faster.
On the plus side, the boat is easy to sail, with a good balance between main and jib sail area. The running rigging and deck hardware is well set up. Oddly, not one equipment list for used 9.2s that we looked at had a spinnaker or spinnaker gear, an indication that the boat is rarely raced. However, if someone is interested in an occasional club race, the boat should sail up to its rating, assuming the sails are good and the boat well handled.
The deck is well laid out, though the walkways are a bit narrow for getting forward, and there’s a considerable step up into the center cockpit. Details of the deck—anchor well, bow fittings, cleats, halyard runs, and so forth—are well executed.
Performance Under Power
A few of the 1977/1978 boats were sold with an Atomic 4 gas engine. After 1979, diesels were installed. Through 1984, the engines were 12-hp or 15-hp Yanmars, or 12-hp Volvos. In 1985, a Yanmar 23 was optional.
The Atomic 4 was a good engine for the boat, as was the Yanmar 23. However, a number of owners report that the boat is underpowered with the Yanmar 12 and 15, and the Volvo 12. For a 10,000 pound boat, 12 to 15 hp would be adequate by traditional standards, but many sailors seem to want a little more these days. The Yanmar 15 in the boat we sailed had no trouble pushing the boat in calm waters, but the owner did say that the boat couldn’t buck any kind of head sea. For some, the optional Yanmar 23 will make the later models more desirable.
In the center-cockpit model, many owners complained about the inaccessibility of one side of the engine and the difficulty of getting at the dipstick, but otherwise the engine was serviceable. A few boats were apparently sold with raw-water cooling rather than a heat exchanger. We’d be cautious about one of the older boats with raw-water cooling unless it had been kept exclusively in fresh water.
The interior was undoubtedly the strong selling point of the boat. For the most part, the belowdecks finish is well done, and there’s about as much usable room below as you could get without making the hull significantly larger.
S2 was one of the first sailboat builders to use fabric as a hull liner, and it became almost a trademark of S2 interiors. The fabric is a neutral-colored polypropylene, treated to be mildew resistant. When we first saw the fabric, we were skeptical, wondering how it would hold up to saltwater soakings. But having owned a smaller S2 for five years, we finally became converts; in fact, in refitting our current boat, we used the fabric extensively, rather than replacing aged vinyl and wood veneer ceilings. The fabric is contact-cemented to the hull, and it holds up amazingly well, absorbing virtually no water. It is quite resistant to mildew and stains. The new owner of an S2 will want to find a good, compact wet/dry vacuum cleaner, which is the required maintenance equipment for the fabric.
The rest of the interior has teak veneer plywood, Formica, and solid teak trim, and the workmanship is good. Layouts changed little throughout the production of the boats. The aft-cockpit model is conventional, with a V-berth that is a bit short, a large head and hanging locker, a large dinette/settee with a settee opposite, and an L-shaped galley with a chart area/quarter berth opposite. There’s adequate stowage under the berths and decent outside stowage in the lazarettes.
The center-cockpit model moves the main cabin forward and the head aft, near to and partially underneath the center cockpit. The galley is opposite the head, running lengthwise down the port side of the cabin and partially under the cockpit. The aft-cabin is roomy, with an athwartship double berth and good locker space. The shortcoming of the center cockpit is that there is virtually no outside storage.
Choosing between the center and aft cockpit is largely a matter of personal preference. With children, or two couples cruising, the aft cabin is hard to beat for livability.
Overall, the interiors are well enough designed and executed that little major work or upgrading should be necessary on most used boats. Many people will want to replace the alcohol stoves on earlier models, perhaps add refrigeration (or replace the original Unifridge), and perform the normal long-term maintenance of re-upholstering, but otherwise the interiors should need little major attention.
Conclusions
The S2s were well-built. Whereas other production companies frequently cheapened or upgraded models from year to year to find marketing niches, S2 made boats to sell near the high end of the production boat market, and kept the quality at a consistent level.
The 9.2s have maintained their value about as well as any 30-footer in the current market. Because the only significant advantage of the 1986 model is the larger Yanmar engine and newer equipment, we would gladly take one of the older 9.2s at a lower price, since the necessary upgrades could easily be done (sails, cushions, electronics) and the final cost would still be much lower than the newer boat.
It’s easy to pay too much money for a used boat these days, but S2 owners generally think they have a good product, and they’ll probably be harder to dicker with than many sellers.
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- Fuel Type Diesel
- Hull Material Fiberglass
- LOA 30'
- Beam 10' 3"
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BALASANG, or "Young Lady", is a 1987 S2 9.2C (Center Cockpit) Sloop with aft stateroom. She is a spacious, uniquely designed sailboat offering features generally found in much larger boats. With 6'2" headroom, and well-lit and ventilated space below, she feels open and welcoming. A dry, 6' cockpit and traveler aft make for comfortable cruising and entertaining. A full galley, head with separate shower and tub, lots of storage and easy engine access add to the list of features. She has a master cabin aft, a forward "V" berth, as well as a dinette settee that can be used as a berth. There is also a small settee that is sized for children to sleep on. BALASANG is reliably powered by a 16-hp, fresh-cooled Yanmar diesel engine, with access under the chart table.BALASANG is well-loved, and well-cared for, and would make a wonderful cruising vessel. The family would love to see her go to someone who will enjoy her as much as their father did. She was sailed last season, winterized professionally and can be launched readily. She is out of the water in Stratford, CT and can be seen by appointment.
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Used Boat Review: The S-2 9.2A/C Well-built cruiser with aft and center cockpit versions
By Thom Burns
During the eighties, S2 earned a strong reputation for good quality boats. The company was founded by Leon Slikkers after he had sold his powerboat company, Slickcraft. As part of the sales agreement, he was precluded from the powerboat market for a number of years. There were no restrictions on sailboat building. So he built a new plant which was, at the time, a model for production-line efficiency. Among other things, the hulls were laid up in an enclosed, climate-controlled room, and they remained in molds until most of the interior was installed. This ensured that there was as little deformation of the basic hull molding as possible.
In the late 1970s, S2 did start building powerboats again, and soon established its Tiara line at the top end of the market. Slikkers’ business acumen, insight and bit of luck allowed him to buy his old powerboat line, Slickercraft, back from the conglomerate that owned it at a time of declining sales in the early 80s, at a fraction of its original sale price. Shortly thereafter S2 enjoyed the boom in powerboat buying which accompanied the decline in sailboat sales during the mid and late 80s.
From the start, Slikkers assembled an experienced crew of builders and sellers from the local area. At the time, Holland, Michigan, was the home of Chris Craft as well as Slickcraft and several other smaller powerboat builders.
The company continues today with a strong crew, according to former dealers. Company personnel and a strong dealer network established a reputation for good relationships with S2 owners, a reputation which continues, even though the company is no longer in the sailboat business.
Former area dealers, such as Gary DeSantis at Sailor’s World on Lake Minnetonka swear by the product and love to deal in used S2 boats.
The Boat and Builder
The boat was built in two configurations, from 1977 to 1987. The 9.2C was a center-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 427. The 9.2A was the aft-cockpit version, and the last one built was hull number 520.
The 9.2 was designed by Arthur Edmunds, who was S2’s "in-house" designer. Beginning in 1981, S2 built a number of racing-oriented cruisers designed by the Chicago naval architects Scott Graham and Eric Schageter, but all of the earlier cruising boats were done by Edmunds. Edmunds also contributed engineering and design detail to Graham & Schlageter’s hull designs.
The 9.2 design has short overhangs, a relatively flat sheer, a long fin keel, and spade rudder. The boats are attractive, and the aft-cockpit model has pleasing proportions. The center-cockpit model is a little boxy looking because of the relatively short overall length for the center cockpit aft cabin design. It is better looking than some other smaller center cockpit boats because it has three levels of deck and cockpit.
The conventional looks of the 9.2 keep it in style which along with the builders reputation seem to keep the boats holding their value pretty well. Shallow-draft keels were a popular option, reducing the draft from 4’11’ to 3’11’. According to DeSantis, most models sold in the midwest were the deeper keel which he personally prefers. The deeper keel doesn’t seem excessive for most waters.
The rigs were identical on all versions, The lead ballast is internal. S2 did a good job of embedding and sealing the lead in the keel cavity which can be a source of leaks on older externally mounted keels. According to DeSantis, this was a major difference between builders of that era.
Sailing Performance
This boat is the cruising, small, bluewater model and shouldn’t be confused with the 9.1 which swept the MORC nationals with a first, second and third finish when it was introduced. Another well sailed 9.1 won its division in the Trans-Superior. This boat has a much longer fin keel which is not as deep. It also makes it more seakindly for cruising. The 9.2 came with a deck-stepped Kenyon spar and North sails as standard, later with Hall or Offshore spars. The rigging and other sailing hardware was good enough in quality that little re-rigging or upgrading is likely to be needed.
The 9.2 typically came with internal halyards, reef lines and outhaul, a good Harken mainsheet traveler, Lewmar #8 halyard winches, and two-speed Lewmar #30s for the jib sheets. A boat this well equipped needs very little in upgrades. The bad news is that 1999 buyers are unlikely to find extensive upgrades to sails, furlers, winches, etc. done by previous owners. As this equipment approaches the middle to end of its second decade some of it will have to be replaced. It won’t last forever.
The boat I sailed performed very well on close, beam and broad reaches. It was a cruising boat close-hauled and it feels a little tender sometimes. Reef early when the wind builds.
She’s not a fast boat by contemporary standards but when compared to some other cruisers she’s quick. The 9.2 carries a PHRF rating around 180 seconds per mile (six seconds slower for the shoal-keel), which is six seconds per mile slower than a Pearson 30 and 12 to 15 seconds per mile slower than the Catalina 30 with a tall rig. In contrast, the 9.2s racing-oriented sister, the S2 9.1, a 30-footer, rates 50 seconds per mile faste at 140. The important thing is that both boats will sail to their numbers.
The boat is easy to sail, with a balanced sail plan. The running rigging, deck hardware and overall deck layout are convenient and functional. The deck is easy to move around. Attention to detail in the deck, anchor well, bow fittings, cleats, and halyards runs are well done.
Performance Under Power
A few of the 1977/1978 boats were sold with an Atomic 4 gas engine. After 1979, diesels were installed. Through 1984, the engines were 12 hp or 15 hp Yanmars, or 12 hp Volvos. In 1985, a Yanmar 23 was optional.
The Atomic 4 was a good engine for the boat, as was the Yanmar 23. For a 10,000 pound boat, 12 to 15 hp should be adequate by traditional standards, but many sailors seem to want a little more. The Yanmar 23 in the boat I sailed seemed like alot of engine. In calm water it would hit hull speed at 1800 or 1900 RPM’s. For some, the optional Yanmar 23 will make the later models more desirable.
The interior was undoubtedly the strong selling point of the boat. The below decks finish is attractive. There’s about as much usable room below as you could get without making the hull significantly larger.
S2 was one of the first sailboat builders to use fabric as a hull liner, and it became almost a trademark of S2 interiors. The fabric is a neutral-colored polypropylene, treated to be mildew resistant. Having looked at several used S2 models, I believe the fabric works well. Many of the 90’s builders have copied the approach. It is contact-cemented to the hull, and it holds up amazingly well, absorbing virtually no water. It is quite resistant to mildew and stains. It is maintained with a good, compact wet/dry vacuum cleaner.
The rest of the interior has teak veneer plywood, Formica, and solid teak trim. The workmanship is good. Layouts changed little throughout the production of the boats. The aft-cockpit model is conventional, with a V-berth, a large head and hanging locker, a large dinette/settee with a settee opposite, and an L-shaped galley with a chart area/quarter berth opposite. There’s adequate stowage under the berths and decent outside stowage in the lazarettes.
The center-cockpit model moves the main cabin forward and the head aft, near to and partially underneath the center cockpit. The galley is opposite the head, running lengthwise down the port side of the cabin and partially under the cockpit. The aft-cabin is roomy, with an athwartship double berth and good locker space. The shortcoming of the center cockpit is that there is virtually no outside storage.
Choosing between the center and aft cockpit is largely a matter of personal preference. With children, or two couples cruising, the aft cabin is hard to beat for livability.
The interiors are well designed and executed. Little major work or upgrading should be necessary on most used boats. Many people will want to replace the alcohol stoves on earlier models, perhaps add refrigeration and perform the normal long-term maintenance or re-upholstering. The interiors should need little major attention.
Conclusions
The S2s were well-built. Whereas other production companies frequently cheapened or upgraded models from year to year to find a marketing niches, S2 made boats to sell near the high end of the production boat market, and kept the quality at a consistent level. I would avoid the shallow draft version on both performance and likely tenderness grounds unless I was going to sail a great deal in shallow areas such as Florida Sound, the Bahamas or Belize.
The 9.2s have maintained their value about as well as any 30 footer according to local brokers. S2 owners generally believe they have a good product, and they’ll probably be harder to dicker with than many eager sellers of other boats in the used market.
Thom publishes Northern Breezes and SailingBreezes.com. Thanks to Gary DeSantis, Sailor’s World, Lake Minnetonka, S-2 Company and Practical Sailor for information for this article.
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Within a wide field of well-designed and competitive racer/cruisers of the 1970s, the S2 9.2 stands out, mainly because it wears its age very well. Without a scoop transom and boarding steps or skinny portlights below the sheer, it still looks modern. The flat sheer, sloping deckhouse, almost-flush Lexan forward hatch, hinged anchor lid, and tinted deadlights are familiar features on boats built three decades later. The carefully detailed teak handrails set on molded fiberglass spacers are unobtrusive while emphasizing the hull’s refined shape and unified design. Nothing is exaggerated in the interest of the fashions of the day or to suit a rating rule.
Powerboat builder Leon R. Slikkers founded S2 Yachts in 1974 and commissioned Arthur Edmonds, designer of the Allied Princess 36 and Mistress 39, to design the S2 9.2A (for its aft cockpit) and the S2 9.2C (for its center cockpit). Over 700 A and C models were sold. Both versions have the same hull, fin keel, partially balanced skeg-hung rudder, and masthead sloop rig. The single-spreader aluminum mast, painted black (an S2 trademark) is stepped on deck over a compression post that’s built into the main bulkhead.
The hull is solid, hand-laid fiberglass. It has an inward-turning flange at the sheer to which the balsa-cored deck is bolted through an extruded aluminum toerail. There’s no molded interior liner. Bulkheads and furniture are tabbed to the hull, which contributes to its structural stiffness. Two tons of lead ballast is encapsulated in a sealed keel cavity. Well-cared-for boats show little wear and tear after three decades of hard sailing, and, owners agree, the gelcoat is generally free of stress cracks even where moldings take tight bends.
The T-shaped cockpit is comfortable and workmanlike. The starboard seat opens to general storage and access to the stuffing box and engine controls. Additional storage is located under the helmsman’s seat in twin lazarettes.
Everything on deck is carefully laid out. The mainsail is sheeted abaft the 28-inch wheel, where it’s out of the way but in reach of the helmsman. The 8-inch stern cleats are mounted on anti-chafing pads and close to hand. Engine controls are similarly convenient to the helm. Early boats had Atomic 4s, but a variety of diesel engines were fitted after 1978.
The engine box provides a wide first step down to the cabin. A small corner galley to starboard of the companionway contains a sink, icebox, and stove. Opposite is a quarter berth and navigation space with a folding seat and table. Headroom is 6 feet 3 inches aft and drops gradually to about 5 feet 10 inches toward the forward cabin.
The saloon table and settee convert to a double berth and, together with a 6-foot-6-inch settee opposite, make a comfortable eating, lounging, and sleeping area. A double berth is located forward of the wardrobe and head area. Generous use of teak, both solid and ply, contributes to a sense of quality throughout the boat, but the polypropylene carpeting used to line the hull ages unattractively.
Sailing the S2 9.2 is a treat. In 15 to 17 knots, it heels sharply under the mainsail and 150-percent genoa before settling in to make 5 or 6 knots upwind. Weather helm is noticeable in stronger gusts, but the boat is generally well balanced and always manageable, even in lumpy seas. All in all, the S2 9.2 is a well-designed, tough, and able 30-footer with good performance for racing or cruising.
Architect Richard Smith and his wife, Beth, sail their Ericson Cruising 31, Kuma, in the Pacific Northwest.
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Sabre 30 Mk II vs S2 9.2 A vs Catalina vs Pearson
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Hello folks, Me and a friend are shopping for cruising boats around 30' and we came across a few that we like. We know they are all considered good boats, but we would like to know if one of them is clearly a better one in terms of quality, speed, sail handling, etc. These things you can't see and it is only known through experience. Our goal is to do weekend cruises with friends in Long Island Sound. The boats are: Sabre 30 Mk III (1987), S2 9,2 A (1979), Catalina 30 (1992) and Pearson 31 (1987). Any comments are greatly appreciated!
I'm not too familiar with the S2's but I think the Sabre would be the best built and best sailing boat in that bunch. It will likely also be the oldest and perhaps need the most maintenance/upgrades. I believe the S2's are pretty good sailors but I don't know about their construction. Catalina 30's are the Chevy's of sailing, moderately built, with few vices and long production run so there are tons of them available. There will always be demand for good examples, so they can be a great starter boat that you'll get most of your money out of when you move up. Pearsons are another one of those boats I don't know that much about except that they were one of the production builders that didn't make it through the downturn in the 80's. From what I understand their boats are probably on par with other production boats of their day, or perhaps 1/2 notch better. The Sabre and S2 are more at the performance end of the spectrum with the Pearson and Catalina are more cruising oriented and offer more space and comfort while on the hook. Any of these boats are capable of weekending with one or two couples in semi-protected water or with proper preparation near-coastal cruising. That said, they are very different boats and the C30 will seem to have almost twice the space as a Sabre 30. The Sabre will be faster, but is that more important to you? For some, absolutely, others would rather have the space. Only you can weigh the equation for your personal preferences. Try to spend some time on each one of these boats and think about being on the boat, both sailing and at anchor and try to relate that to your desires. That will help you identify which factors carry more weight for you. Which ever boat you decide you might want, find the best example of that boat you can afford and get a survey by a competent surveyor. After identifying the attributes you desire in a boat, getting one in the best condition is key to a satisfying experience. Good Luck.
the sabre may have a huge offset on the prop shaft if that bothers you[i dont know how anybody could make them go astern in a strait line] i have a79 pearson 32 and my jaded opinion they are way better build than any of the others built during that time frame .the 1987 pearson may have to much core material for my taste...i duel with a sabre32 quite a few times and it seems iam always a tad faster
Hey, I always back down the fairway and into my slip. I've even backed from the pumpout three fairways away into my slip. Sabres can back well if you keep your wits and you can even use the prop walk to advantage with experience. Of the boats you named, I'd favor the Sabre...but then I'm not impartial. Any of the boats should serve for what you've described. Just make sure, whatever boat you choose, that you have it surveyed. Happy hunting...MGM
My $.02 Hello, You really can't go wrong with any of those boats. S2 9.2A - similar in size to the Catalina. S2 has a reputation of being well made. However, I looked at about 5 of them, and they all had leaking ports. On some of the boats, the leaks were so bad that the bulkheads were rotted. On all the boats I looked at, the leaks resulted in a lot of mold and mildew below. Note that the 9.2A model is a cruiser and is not performance oriented at all. S2 made a 9.1 model that was a racer. Catalina 30 - you have received plenty of good advice about this one. Sabre - these are premium boats. A 1987 model should be much more expensive than the others. If the one you are interested in is comparably priced be very careful because there is probably something wrong with it. Pearson 31 - sorry but I don't know too much about the 31. A friend has a P30 from the late 70's. It's a great sailing boat but small down below. Of the boats you listed, the Sabre has the best reputation. The Catalina is the most common. You might as well consider similar boats like C&C, O'day 30 / 31, Islander 30, Ericson, Newport, etc. IMHO, most 30' cruiser / racer sloops are basically the same. Some are better built, some are faster, but unless you have some particular needs or likes, you should look at lots of boats until you find something you really like. For example, if you like to swim off the boat, or will be keeping the boat on a mooring, the O'day 31 and 302 have swim platforms. That makes it much easier to get on / off the boat. If you want a center cockpit model, there is an S2 9.2C model. Do you want a wheel or tiller, deep draft or shoal draft, are you interested in racing? Catalina has the biggest user groups, etc. Good luck, Barry
I agree with all the comments made so far. We purchased our 1988 Sabre 30 last year after looking at Pearson, Sabre and Catalina as well as a Yankee 30. In the end the Sabre won out because of the quality of build, condition of the boat and to the wife, it just felt like home; which is important, because we spend every weekend on it. I also was interested in having a deck stepped mast. With the boats you are looking at, I think that condition of the boat, condition of equipment and sails, is very important. Your boat will demand alot of time and money from you, and replacing and upgrading equipment will be very costly.One broker told us that the boat you end up buying has to bite you in the ankle, and I think there is truth to that. You should really love your boat and always want to turn around and take one more look at her before you leave her. Get a good surveyor above all else! Good Luck! (If you're looking at the Sabre 30 in Essex, Ct. she does look to be in very good condition.)
My choice would be either the Sabre or Pearson. Some comments on the Pearson 31 since you haven't got many yet. It's a much more modern boat compared to the P30. Roomy and decent construction. Worth a look.
"the sabre may have a huge offset on the prop shaft if that bothers you[i dont know how anybody could make them go astern in a strait line] i have a79 pearson 32" Uh,the offset of the prop counteracts the torque of the engine. Sabres easily back up straight with no prop walk. I had one for 20 years and my current C&C also has an offset prop. I have sailed on, at one time or another, all 4 boats. S2- 9.2 Edmunds 1978 design- S2s version of a Catalina 30. Better built than the Catalina and sails about the same. Big J means big headsails. Not to be confused with the 9.1 designed by G&S. Catalina 30- Big interior. Big sail handling requirements. Catalina knows how to make them after the first 1000 or so. Sailing responsiveness is pretty dead compared to the Sabre and Pearson Pearson 31-2 - Very nice interior. Sails o'k but a bit of wetted surface. Pearson cut some corners like not using solid fiberglass under stanchion bases. One (86) I'm familiar with had delaminated deck and stanchion bases replaced and a lot of bottom work. Nicest of the bunch at the dock, not a stellar sailor in light to medium. Sabre 30-3. Nice double spreader rig. Narrowest boat of the bunch at the waterline meaning less wetted surface. Interior is smaller than the others but well thought out. Boat sails circles around the others upwind and about the same downwind. Excellent construction and design details. Boat is just solid and very responsive. Sabre 30 is well thought out and all the little things are right. If you get a chance to sail one before you buy you will know what I mean. There is a reason why Sabres have somewhat of a cult following. In summation, 3 boats here are nice at the dock and great for puttering around the bay, the Sabre is a sailors boat and likes to be sailed hard in conditions that you might encounter in Maine where it was built. PS- the Pearson 32 is an entirely different boat than the 31-2. IMHO the 32 is a much better sailing boat than the 31-2 but quite a bit smaller in the interior. Avg Base PHRF Numbers Catalina 30 Std rig- 186 S2 9.2A- 183 Pearson 31-2 165 S30-3 165
Great feedback guys, it's been really helpful! Any comments on Jeanneau Attalia 31 '86, Dufour 31 '83 and Pearson 323? From what I've read in the forum the Pearson 323 is a more rugged boat, some people say it is even an offshore boat. Does that mean that it is slower when compared to the Sabre for example?
I owned a Catalina 30 for four summers. Now going on my fourth season with the Pearson 323 (#2). I don't feel well qualified to comment on the sailing characteristics except to say that I find that the 323 takes less work to sail. It seems to sail by iteslf and seems faster than the C-30. However, my lack of sail trim expertise could be the issue. Here is what I like about the 323 compared to the C-30. *Very Robust and feels safer. I often sail (or motor) through the Race in LIS. If timing isn't right, it can get pretty turbulent. The C-30 used to bob around like a cork and be uncontrollable. i have never had difficulty with the 323. *Most hardware and fittings are sturdier than C-30 *Cockpit is as large or larger than C-30 *Larger foredeck *Larger V-Berth with more headroom *Offset companionway is a huge convenience *Bridge Deck -besides being a better design for heavy seas, provides more seating options *Huge galley cooler *Nice chart table with seating *Skeg hung rudder *Huge anchor locker *Very stout mast *Full access to engine (but it is so deep, one needs to be a contortionist to reach some spots Here is what I miss on the C-30: Don't have to walkthrough the head to get to V-Berth (although small). Easier to get down the companionway when dodger is up. Quarterberth (supposedly a double) is great for storage. Engine access is easier - although some parts are covered by galley sink. Dinette table design is better that the pole mounted table on the 323. The admiral says the C- 30 is no comparison to the P323 and that's what counts. Good luck, Mike
Fodao, Some advice that I've seen here often: " There's no best boat, just the best boat for you ". It's not just about sailing performance or we'd all own high-tech race boats or heavy blue water warriors. It's about living with the boat. That could mean anything from the galley layout to the length of the v-berth. Little things make a big difference in how much you enjoy your boat, and different things are important to different people. It's weird. Some boats will speak to you. When you get on board they feel like home. Spend time just sitting in the boat. It's amazing what you'll start to notice after 15 minutes. " Buy a boat for how you'll use it. " Sailing to Tonga looks great in Latts & Atts. But a boat that's built for that trip is probably a lousy coastal weekender. " It's a boat. Things will break. You will fix them ." There are some great boats out there whose builders are no longer around. Friends of mine love their Pearson. That said I love the fact that I can get just about any part from Catalina, or walk into any marine supply and they know my boat. My fridge door won't seal because a previous owner cracked it and did a poor repair. Catalina's making me a new one for around $100. My boat is a 1995. Also look at access to the engine, electical panel, etc. How hard will it be to maintain this boat. Have previous repairs been done correctly or was the previous owner a hack? " Buy a boat you love. " I know that sounds goofy, but some boats just feel right from the moment you step on board. Is she pretty to your eye? It matters, and everyone has a different idea of what's pretty. " Buy a boat you can sell. " The reason is obvious. FWIW I love my Catalina 30 but that doesn't mean it's the right boat for you. Have fun with your search! Jim
Well said Jim... I'd add that you really need to find a boat that has a berth you can be comfortable in, especially if you're going to do more than daysail. If you can't sleep comfortably, you'll have a problem.
You're just jealous cause your boat can't get out of your own way...
I agree with Jim about getting the boat that's right for you. I looked at what seemed liked 300 boats and ended up back with a Catalina30. It just felt like the right boat for me and as it turned out, it was. I've had mine for four years and the support from Catalina from parts to general questions is among the best in the business. Plus, the owners group is a great resource.
If you like the Sabre, you might also like a Tartan 31. 1990 Tartan Sloop Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Idk if this will help with fodao's question, but how about the Bristol 30? In comparable condition how does it rate in this comparison?
I own a 1983 S2 9.2A. I have owned this boat for 12 years and have been very pleased with its build and systems. It is a joy to sail. As all boats do, it needs TLC. I rebed the chainplates every other year and do the other chores that crop up. I have sailed Pearsons and Catalinas, and am familiar with Sabre. Any of these boats would serve you well. I would be more concerned with the appeal of the layout and the condition of the boat. You will find good examples of all of these boats as well as some that have been sorely neglected. My advice is pay a premium and buy the best example you can afford. mckeown
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Considering "Butt ugly" S2 9.2C
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At the present time, I am looking for a retirement boat to replace my Pearson 27. Big enough to cruise for a couple of weeks with my wife, but small enough to take out myself for an afternoon sail. Saw a picture of an S2 9.2C for sale in Huntington. One of the ugliest sailboats I have seen in a long time, but seems to have great accomodations for its size, and all lines and winches are in easy reach for single handed sailing. From what I understand, the quality of S2 sailboats is about equal to Pearson; somewhere between "Hunterbenelina" and Saber/Tartan. Any thoughts/recommentations from S2 owners? I don't mind ugly if she has a great personality.
We have a 9.2 aft cockpit and love her. She's new to us, but 30 years old and still going strong. The 9.2C and A should have similar sail characteristics - we really like how ours handles. If you can get past the looks of the center cockpit I am guessing you will like what she offers on the water and below decks for living space. S2 certainly seemed to get the most out of the space on these boats.
Hey, I don't really know where S2 got the rep for being better than catalina, beneteau, etc. A number of years ago I was looking for a 30' boat and saw a bunch of the 9.2A models. ALL of them had bad leaks around the ports, with associated mold, rot, etc. below. I have never been aboard the 9.2C model, but I don't think they would be any better. If you like center cockpit boats you should also look for the O'day 32. Personally, I think center cockpit boats need to be at least 40' before they start to look decent. I would much rather have a 34-36 aft cockpit boat than a similar sizes center cockpit. Barry
BarryL 1986 Oday 35 said: Hey, I don't really know where S2 got the rep for being better than catalina, beneteau, etc. A number of years ago I was looking for a 30' boat and saw a bunch of the 9.2A models. ALL of them had bad leaks around the ports, with associated mold, rot, etc. below. Click to expand
centerline said: if you are comparing or looking for one boat that is better than or equal to another boat, you can only compare same brands and models... every brand of boat is so much differnt than another brand, with the few exceptions that the same boat was produced by two different companies, for marketing, buyout, or whatever other reasons it happens. so when you start trying to compare, you will get more negative responses than you will positive ones.... because everyone thinks the boat they own right now is the best boat ever.... and the one you are trying to compare isnt like theirs and wont ever be like theirs. we all love our boat and there is nothing that compares to it ugly isnt all bad.... as far as the prettiness of a boat goes, it wont keep you afloat any better, create any less boat maintenance, be any cheaper to maintain, sail any better or be any more fun... it being pretty may stroke your ego a bit better, but a pretty boat, like a woman is almost always going to cost more than an ugly one.... both in purchase and maintenance... buy a well maintained, and "butt ugly" boat and you will be much happier than you will with a very pretty boat that needs a lot of TLC.... Click to expand
Muttondressedaslamb said: Looks aren't everything, but I do draw the line at Bayliner/Buccaneer sailboats. They sail even worse than they look Click to expand
Muttondressedaslamb said: One of the ugliest sailboats I have seen in a long time, but seems to have great accomodations for its size, and all lines and winches are in easy reach for single handed sailing. Click to expand
klemsaba said: You haven't seen ugly until you've seen my boat... the S2 8.0c! We look ridiculous sailing on it. Like giants in a small bathtub. But it's my ugly boat and I love it! Ha! I love the lines of the 9.2c. The aft cabin is great! Good luck! Click to expand
Muttondressedaslamb said: If looks could kill, that boat would be brought up on Capital Murder Charges. Click to expand
Jackdaw said: Klemsaba, That made me smile. I did a post about the 8.0CC on crusing anarchy awhile back.... I'll repost it below..... ------------------------------------------------------ Although I'm sure we all like to say 'All sailboats at beautiful', like the rest of you I could easily name the one I thought was ugliest. A special combination of gracelessness, unsoundness, and lack of pace. Click to expand
Mark Maulden
OK....Quit picking on S2!! Even though the 8.0C looks like it was cut in half.....and for some reason, the smaller ones do tend to get neglected. Hell, my 11.0A was neglected when I bought it it but no issues down below except cracked windows....and I still beat Cat 36s (beer can races)..Ha!
Oh ya... S2 did not own/use a chopper gun...
Mark Maulden said: Oh ya... S2 did not own/use a chopper gun... Click to expand
Muttondressedaslamb said: And Bill Clinton didn't have a "little black book" Click to expand
woodster said: actually they were hand laid and rolled in the lay up ...i know this for fact as i removed the gel coat on my hull and you can /could see the layups and if you look close on the topsides you can see the laps in the layup....no evidence of any chopper gun what so ever and the hull is minimum of 1/2 inch thick...very well built Click to expand
I did a lot of reserch before I bought my S2 8.5. One of the main things I was looking for was "Good Bones." I grew up around power boats and have learned how revered Slick Craft were. There is an old Slick Craft sitting in our boat yard that people have offered to buy just because it is a Slick Craft. This boat just happens to be in the slip next to mine. So as the story goes "Slick Craft" signed a non compete that they wound not produce power boats, so they started making sailboats. My Point is this is the same company, same qualty of work, same employees. Laying glass is truely an art. S2 always had experianced people that knew how to make qualty boats! It doesn't make any diference if it is a powerboat or sailboat mold laying glass is laying glass. By chance I had a very interesting S2 conversation with some here in Milwaukee. I told him that I just bought a sailboat. He asked what boat. I told him an S2 8.5. To my suprise he told my that he worked for S2. He went on and on about he quality of S2s. Yes they were absolutly hand layed. This man had true pride in his voice for the company he worked for. Not someone who used a chop gun to cheeply piece boats together. He also said that S2 outsourced some parts to Harken.
I toured the factory in Holland several times when I was in the area on business trips in the mid eighties. I saw all lay ups being done by hand and they were very proud of the fact that they didn't own a chopper gun. At the time(s), I had just procured my (first) 11.0a as a trade from a 9.2C. They were very interested in any comments I had. I'm currently a retired engineer from a very large airplane co and familiar with production lines of such. What I saw with S2, was a very organized and immaculate line(s). They also had a float tank where every boat was floated before rigging. Having said this, I've never toured any other builder but I'm on my 3rd S2 over the years (with another boat in the mix) so I must like S2s....my only itch is the 11.0a is a few inches short in the waterline compared to other comparable boats. But it still does well.
I don't think many sailboats were or are built using chopper guns. It would be quite obvious from the inside. To me the most telling testament is the relative lack of spider webs in the gel goat under deck fittings from laying it on too thick. Of course that is just a cosmetic defect. To me, relative to other boats you can buy at the same price S2 is good value for dollar. 10-25K will buy you a older Catalina 30 without a tee shaped cockpit, or a Cherubini Hunter 30, or a early 80's Hunter 28.5 or 31. The only Beneteau you will likely find in quantity from that vintage in the same price range and size is a First 28.5. For my money S2 is on par with the quality and performance of all but the later, but the 285 is a fractious boat under sail from what I understand.
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Note that the 9.2A model is a cruiser and is not performance oriented at all. S2 made a 9.1 model that was a racer. Catalina 30 - you have received plenty of good advice about this one. Sabre - these are premium boats. A 1987 model should be much more expensive than the others.
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The 9.2C and A should have similar sail characteristics - we really like how ours handles. If you can get past the looks of the center cockpit I am guessing you will like what she offers on the water and below decks for living space. S2 certainly seemed to get the most out of the space on these boats.
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Notes. Accoring to literature, the S2 22 is a refinement of the S2 6.9 with a winged keel, which in turn, was a development of the S2 6.7, designed by S2 in-house designer, Don Wennersten. The S2 22 was built of solid glass (deck and hull), differing from the balsa core used in it's predecessors. (Thanks to Bob Proctor for providing updated ...
S2 is a boat builder in the marine industry that offers boats for sale in differing sizes on Boat Trader, with the smallest current boat listed at 22 feet in length, to the longest vessel measuring in at 36 feet, and an average length of 29.98 feet. Boat Trader currently has 13 S2 boats for sale, including 2 new vessels and 11 used boats listed ...