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Illusion Mini 12 thoughts
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I came across two of these for sale, and I have to admit that they intrigue me. They seems like that would be just a fun small boat to sail. If I recall weren't they used for Paralympics racing, or something along those lines? Does anyone have any experience on these and what are your thoughts on them? https://providence.craigslist.org/boa/d/hampden-illusion-mini-12-sailboats-two/6994321891.html
Buy it, do the bare minimum to get it sailing, sail it for a season, then sell it it for for what you paid when you are done with it You couldn't not have fun with a boat like that.
That does look like a fun boat.
One for me, and one for my now 11 yr old daughter... :grin
Those always looked to me like they would be the closest you could get to sailing on a model boat. Gulliver sailing for the AC in Lilliput.
I grew up sailing/racing small boats. When I first saw the mini 12 I thought it looked like more than fun. I say go for it! -CH
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Anyone familiar with Mini 12 Meter sailboats?
- Thread starter John in MA
- Start date Jun 11, 2007
Respect the gamba tuba
- Jun 11, 2007
Just wondering about this. A local boatyard has one of these things sitting around, trying to sell it for the owner. About 10' long, with the lines of an old America's Cup racer. Supposedly has the rigging and other important parts, plus a cradle. So-so condition overall. Originally they said $100, when they called the owner he said $300 and I sort of blew it off. Now looking around the internet I'm wondering if it might be worth going back and haggling for.
Feats Don't Fail Me Now
Would love to see a pic of that boat...sails would probaly run $2K just for an average main and jib...not to mention what TLC the rigging needs...I would bet it would be a beautiful one off when its done but it will cost $$$ to get into that game.
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- Jun 12, 2007
They are very attractive, but more like toys than real boats. Then again, for a couple of hundred bucks, it may be worth picking up. You'll pay far more that the purchase price to bring her back to proper sailing trim, I suspect. Wood hull or fiberglass?
Fiberglass hull, has a few chips and a crack on the deck. Not sure of the brand but I think it's an Illusion. I gather most of these were made in the '80s before the 2.4m class was developed. It has at least a mainsail and probably the full kit. They had the rigging stashed inside and I didn't look at it. It's outfitted with a tiny little roller furler for the jib. The ballast was also out of the boat when I saw it. Not sure if it's missing or what. All the rest of the hardware is there, including a big bilge pump. Here's the general style: http://www.sailingtexas.com/sillusionmini12b.html
second_wind
- Jun 14, 2007
Mini 12 I have one of these they are lots of fun to sail. Mine is an Oberg & Davis they were in Bristol Rhode Island and are since gone. Gavia yachts still makes them they are in Conn. I live in Hopedale Ma. Here is a link to the only U.S manufacterer http://www.gaviayachts.com/leader.htm
Thanks. What do you figure one needing TLC might be worth?
- Jun 15, 2007
2.4 metre It depends really on the condition if the keel ballast is still there as well as the rigging and all it needs is cosmetics $1500 $2000 if there is significant peices missing it could turn into an expensive project. I've seen these go on ebay for anywhere from $1500 to $4500. Let us know what you decide to do I may be interested in it if your not.
- Jun 22, 2007
Talked to the owner today, going to look at it tomorrow. Needs a couple cracks in the deck fixed (minor, I've seen them), needs sheets and halyards, and a coat of paint. It has full gear and hardware, has both sails but in unknown condition. Might have a whisker pole, not sure. Comes with a little cradle. Ballast is missing but this series used bags of lead shot to adjust to the pilot. Over the phone he said $200, but I think he'd take less. Has that sound to his voice. I figure I can't go wrong for that price.
Look forward to some pics...heck at that price you can't go wrong...those look like they may be a lot of fun to play in the wind...a
- Jul 6, 2007
Looks like I bought it. The owner's opinion of the boat appears to have gone down since I last talked to him. 60 cans of Budweiser for his boatyard buddies and its mine. Pics to follow over the weekend, hopfully.
- Jul 7, 2007
- Jul 12, 2007
- Aug 13, 2007
Not much progress on the boat. I've discovered how the mast was made and hopfully how to make a new one with what I have. Also found a few former and current owners of these things in town. Turns out there used to be a big fleet back in the '80s but the fad passed.
- Sep 14, 2007
Started tearing it apart last week. Stripped down to a bare hull, sanded everything, even removed the rudder tube and fittings. I have a all-new steering system waiting to go in. Now I'm starting to reassemble things, and just today I started repairing the deck crack and fairing the hull. Looks like it was a small builder's product. Hull seems copied from an Illusion, the rigging is Illusion, but the deck and interior combine features from many boats and original ideas. It's not made as well as a real Illusion I looked at a few days ago.
keep em' coming John (the updates)!!...and good luck with the overhaul...a
- Sep 15, 2007
Very cool looking. Looks like only a small person could sail her comfortably. How about retrofitting the keel to a winged version for improved windward performance? Like to see pics when fully rigged...
the-real-mandak
- Sep 17, 2007
Over here they are mainly used by disabled people to race in, since it is a really safe boat. it looks good on the water and is souppoused to sail quite well but I newer had the chance to sail in one, my brother did and he liked it.
simul justus et peccator
- Sep 18, 2007
John, That's the best use of Budweiser I've seen since using it as a glass rinse! Way to go. :thmbsp: P.S. Bet the wife's happy, too.
- Oct 2, 2007
- Sep 25, 2008
John: What is the hull number? The first 3 letters are the identifier for the manufacturer. The hull number should be somewhere on the edge of the upper deck near the stern or else on the upper part of the hull itself. The boat looks very much like a Millimeter Mini 12. I have a 1983 Millimeter and your boat looks like a newer version of mine. People always call these Illusions when in fact the Illusion was only build in the UK. Some were imported into the US and at last count that I know of, there were only 75 true Illusions in the US. There were other versions build under similar specs by various manufacturers in the US and elswhere. Your hull ID number will go a long way to identifying the manufacturer of this particular boat. Shaun
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- Location: The Colony, Texas, United States
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Notes. Spin.: 45 sq. ft. 'Mini 12'one-design single hander with pedal steering. Similar concept as the 2.4M but somewhat smaller. Ballast can be added or removed from a cavity within keel. Most recent Builder: Advanced Marine Structures. www.amstructures.co.uk. +44 (0) 1983 200011.
Expired. $1,500 USD. Seller's Description. Illusion Mini 12 Excellent condition. Re-painted and new Harken blocks added. 2 mains, 2 jibs with furlers, spinnaker. With trailer. Has 200lbs of lead pellet bags for ballast. Nothing like being laid over close hauled with your head inches from the water in the complete security of a ballasted keel boat.
SchockT. 4609 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Oct 23, 2019. They do look like a lot of fun! I understand they are very wet boats to sail. The fact that there are 2 of them means that you have match racing potential. Royal Victoria Yacht Club in British Columbia has a big fleet of mini 12s.
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