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Sabre stood out as the leader in terms of people, product and conversion process. The conversion went very well due to detailed planning and project management by Sabre. We requested workflow customizations and integrations with our backend accounting systems, and Sabre delivered as promised. They had to figure out some difficult problems, and they were determined and professional every step of the way. George Kyvernitis – Founder of Kyvernitis Travel

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Sabre leadership, account management and technical teams have always been incredibly responsive and also very interested in what we’re doing and how they can help. They’re curious about how we want to serve our customers both now and in the future, and that’s why they continue to be such a good partner. We’re constantly looking for new ways to partner and think beyond, to figure out the next mountain to climb in the industry together. Kiera Haining – VP of Flights – Hopper

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The Sabre Yachts Customer Service Team

Many Sabre owners; whether it’s a sailboat or powerboat, old or new, have had the opportunity to speak with a member of the Sabre Customer Service Team.  With well over 55 years of experience between the two of them, Glen Chaplin, known to many as Chappy, and Tucker Thompson have been the voices, faces and personalities behind your phone calls, visits, video calls and emails.  The wealth of knowledge that these two individuals share is invaluable to Sabre, Sabre dealers and Sabre owners.

Chappy began his career at Sabre 35 years ago.  He spent 6 months in Gelcoat repair and then transferred to the Deck Department installing hardware.  For about 3 years he was the Supervisor for the Deck Department and then moved over to Shipping and Receiving for a couple of years.  From there he moved to the woodshop, building cabinets, and then finally to assembly doing inside trim work until 1998 when he was awarded the position of Customer Service Representative.  Tucker has been with Sabre for 23 years and has been a Customer Service Representative since he began with the company.

How does a company, like Sabre, designate which customer service representative is assigned to which customer or boat?  When Tucker first joined the team, he handled all boats within their first year of ownership and from there, they were transferred to Chappy.  In today’s production, Chappy handles the customer service for the 43’s & 45’s while Tucker handles the 48’s & 58’s.  They also have extensive knowledge in retired models including the massive amount of Sabre sailboats still sailing around the world.   Both Tucker and Chappy feel that the current arrangement has more benefits as they are able to follow the boat from the first owner and beyond and already have an experience and timeline on the specific vessel.

We asked them both about the worst part of their jobs.  Chappy said that during the spring and early summer months, it is SO busy that they cannot help everyone in a timely manner and that can be overwhelming.  Tucker’s response, without any hesitation, is PAPERWORK!!!

When asked about the best part of the job, Chappy responded, “Working with Tucker!  Besides that, it is rewarding when you can help a customer with an issue, to provide them with a better experience of owning a boat and enjoying it as intended.”  Tucker immediately jumped in and said, “Glen said working with me is the best part of his job and I agree, I enjoy working with me as well 😊.  Our customers are buying into a lifestyle where they can enjoy time with family and friends and not just a boat.  With that in mind I enjoy getting to know our customers as best as I can to see how they run their boat.  Are they day trippers?  Are they cruisers? Do they enjoy meals on board or like to go to their favorite restaurants?  Do they have kids, grand kids,  pets?  By knowing the person on the other end of the phone or email helps me address their concerns better.  This customer service position is different from large corporations where you are discouraged from talking to a customer about anything other than the questions they ask.”

We asked Chappy if he had anything else he’d like to share and his response was, “Sabre’s been a good company to work for.  I came here in 1985 not knowing really anything about boats, and the company has taught me over the years.  There are challenges, as with any job, but its rewarding at the same time.”  Tucker’s final thoughts are, ” I started at Sabre in November in 1999 after being “downsized” in the group medical insurance business for 11 years.  My plans were to accept this position at Sabre for six months or so until I find something back in the medical insurance world again. That was 23 years ago!!   We frequently greet new boat owners, or new to them boat owners with “welcome to the family”.  Sabre is like an extended family for me.  Seeing our boats on the water, whether it’s a Sabre 28 or a Sabre 58, and people enjoying themselves onboard.  I am grateful to be a part of this family.”

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Sabre 43 Salon Express Reviewed

  • By Patrick Sciacca
  • July 12, 2024

Sabre 43 Salon Express

The Florida-based couple explained to me that they were winding down from their full-time work lives. They had plans to spend more time cruising, but not down South. They have a part-time home in the Pine Tree State, but would soon leave their Sunshine State residence behind for a full-time life in New England. The move would come with liveaboard and serious voyaging plans, and the Sabre Yachts 43 Salon Express we were aboard was on their shortlist because their current outboard-powered vessel lacks the layout and amenities for a true cruising campaign.

I was sitting at the salon’s L-shaped dinette to starboard, with a standard high-gloss cherry-wood high-low table and pillow-soft seating. The couple kicked back on the straight settee to port as they told me their story. Looking around this space, the why of their choice came into focus.

Sabre 43 Salon Express

First, there’s the cozy like home factor we were experiencing. The 43’s salon has a warm, welcoming, standard teak-and-holly sole, enhanced by equally warm, welcoming, grain-matched, satin-finish cherry wood—also standard. This wood combination is found throughout the yacht’s interior. It’s easy to envision an early morning sitting at the dinette, feet up with hot coffee made at the open galley just a couple of steps down from the salon. Maybe watch the 32-inch flip-down TV as the vessel’s optional 480 hp Volvo Penta IPS10-650 diesels warm up for the day’s adventure. (The 380 hp IPS-500s are standard.)

The galley is to port and down, barely, and it is bright and airy. Three front windows are gently raked, creating an atrium effect over the L-shaped galley, which also benefits from the side windows amping up the natural-light quotient. The salon has curved glass wrapping around its after section, providing views of the cockpit corners, as opposed to a squared-off bulkhead that forces the skipper to move their head to catch the view aft. This curved glass is a clever bit of engineering and manufacturing, and not something I’ve seen on a yacht of this size.

Sabre 43 Salon Express

The galley is also well-equipped for meal prep with a solid-surface countertop, stainless-steel undermount sink, Cuisinart convection/microwave oven, two-burner Kenyon induction cooktop, and Vitrifrigo two-drawer fridge and freezer. Induction cooktops use around 5 percent to 10 percent less energy than their electric counterparts, and they are generally safer because the surface only gets hot once pots or pans are placed on the burners. (Induction cooktops generate heat via an electromagnetic field.)

In addition to taking meals in the salon, owners can sit at a U-shaped dinette across from the galley that Sabre calls the hybrid lounge. The seating and table convert to a double berth with a 6-inch foam mattress for the kids or occasional guests.

Sabre 43 Salon Express

Owners take their slumber in the master stateroom forward. This stateroom has an island berth with a 9-inch latex mattress, which generally means durability and supports the body better than memory foam, a positive attribute when the plan is extended voyages and being a seasonal—or longer—liveaboard. The owner’s stateroom also has a Samsung flat-screen TV, four drawers to port, and a cedar-lined locker to starboard to stow clothes and gear.

There is a single head on board the 43, and the master stateroom has direct access to it. There is additional guest access off the companionway. The head has a Tecma toilet and a separate stall shower with an acrylic door. There is a sink here, along with solid-surface countertops and a deck hatch above for fresh air ventilation.

Sabre 43 Salon Express

The Sabre 43 Salon Express surely felt the part of ready-to-run cruiser as I looked around, but the question remained: Does this well-proportioned and nicely outfitted downeast design, with its timeless lines and modern powerplants, have the performance to match?

Running in calm water with seven people aboard and about two-thirds of the 432-gallon fuel tank full, the boat came on plane in rapid fashion. It soon hit an effortless 30-knot cruise speed at 3,300 rpm while the engines burned right around 37 gallons of fuel per hour. Considering a 10 percent reserve, there is about a 315-nautical-mile range at this speed. Push those single-lever throttles on the pins at 3,700 rpm, and this 43-footer makes about 35 knots while burning 49 gph, resulting in a range of about 278 nautical miles. That’s solid performance for a yacht with a 30,800-pound half-load displacement.

Sabre 43 Salon Express

The efficiency is partly thanks to the IPS propulsion package, but it’s also because that package works in lockstep with the 43’s modified-V hull form, which has 15 degrees of transom deadrise and 21 degrees amidships. It creates an easy-to-plane and stable running surface.

Supporting this hull form is robust construction, with the yacht’s hull bottom and topsides built via resin-infused biaxial E-glass with Corecell foam for strength without added weight. The stringer system is also built with E-glass and a foam core for a strong backbone.

In addition to build strength, the 43 has a yacht-quality level of fit-and-finish at all points, from the joinerwork to the see-your-face-in-it hull paint. The designers also optimized onboard real estate in every way I could see.

As I write this, I don’t know if the couple I met ultimately ordered the Sabre 43 Salon Express. But as I was leaving the boat, I saw them sitting comfortably in the salon, taking in the layout and seeming to be in no hurry to disembark. That’s always a good sign.

Helm It Your Way

The Sabre 43 Salon Express has a proper helm setup in that there are standard—and quite comfortable—Stidd seats with fold-down footrests. Sightlines are unobstructed, even when the boat is coming onto plane. The single-lever throttles and joystick are positioned within arm’s reach, multifunction displays are in the line of sight, and there is side-deck access for line handling when cruising shorthanded.

Assisted Docking

This 43 Salon Express is equipped with Volvo Penta’s Assisted Docking system. It let our captain create a perimeter or lane for the yacht. Push the joystick forward, and the boat moves forward in the preset lane. Create a perimeter, and the boat moves within the circle. Not sure what to do? Let the joystick go, and the yacht holds position. The system worked smoothly and came in handy while waiting for bridges.

The Great Outdoors

Cruising is the primary mission of the Sabre 43 Salon Express, and part of the cruising experience is entertaining friends and family. The cockpit is well-suited for the task. Entrance is gained via a transom door off the swim platform to starboard. There is an L-shaped settee to port, set around a high-gloss wood table for alfresco meals. Flanking the sliding glass doors on centerline are two aft-facing seats for taking in the view underway.

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04-04-2012, 10:04  
Boat: Valiant 40
, a 38 Mk II. In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that I did very much like it, even though the listing is a tad optimistic (described as well maintained and bristol, turns out to be a bit of a and looks like no-one has touched it in over a year) on condition and , including a lot here, and everyone here just raves about the "build quality" of the as opposed to the "production" . But I must be missing something.

They used cheesy plastic that look and flimsy and are secured into the with big flat screws. They must well, but they look like junk. And while we're on the subject of plastic, the in all the cabinets are plastic crap, half of these had no spring left and you had to poke them with a finger to get them to latch. If Sabre is so high end, why not spend a few extra dollars on little metal ?

Access seems very poor. Every other step is a lid that opens to the , which requires major surgery to get the steps out of the way enough to do any real . I could tell by the way the screws were all catywampus that the first owner had done this several times. The floor has only two small access into the . It looks like it would take a sawzall and major damage to get access to the , which would be a shame because it's a really nice floor. As a plus, the access to the quadrant was the easiest I've seen, but the access concerns me. The liner looks an absolute nightmare to remove where you can, and is liner in other places with small accesses drilled. How is this any better than a liner in a modern "production" ?

The to joint is glued and screwed. Folks point out this exact same procedure as a weakness in "production" , yet here she is with the exact same setup. Why is it OK when Sabre does it, but not anyone else?

I want to learn more about evaluation, so I can avoid a few of the I made last time. What am I missing? Why is this boat considered so much better than her production counterparts?

JRM

-- And while I'm typing, a bit of a rant about "optimistic descriptions" of listing brokers. "This vessel must be seen to be appreciated" and "she has been cared for her entire life" seem, to me at least, to indicate a boat in bristol to very good condition. If I drive three hours through traffic each way to see a boat thusly described, I'm expecting good things. Not a neglected, filled bilge, rusting , dog hair and dirt filled . Why not be honest, and skip the massive initial dissapointment and anger?
04-04-2012, 13:53  
Boat: Outbound 44
. It required completely dismantling the cabinentry to change out the starter. Not well thought out.

Getting a straight description from is tough. Basically they just can't be believed. When I pushed one so I could decide if I should travel to see the boat he finally said "Let's just say the owner was not a slave to the boat"
04-04-2012, 14:27  
Boat: none
was deliminating and when I told the broker the was high for a boat with deliminating deck he responded "but its' a Sabre". Far as I was concerned there was no way to stand on "Sabre quality" for a boat that was deliminating!
04-04-2012, 14:59  
. It seemed nicely done as far as glass , tabbing etc... nicely wetted out glass etc. I found very poor thought was given to , but the boat seemed huge inside due to that. Also, many of the places had nicely wetted and finished , but non-gelcoated (or painted) surfaces. I came away liking the boat, but definitely not convinced it was worth more than many others..... The 38 mkIi was prior to the 405 right? If I remember right the borker also said the 405 was cored below the ... I'm not sure if he knew what he was talking about or not. - Elmore Leonard








06-04-2012, 14:33  
Boat: Bristol 35.5
and could not have been happier. Although, I understand that newer Sabres have better quality today (prices are higher as well, however!).
06-04-2012, 16:00  
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
experts here. You would do well to speak with a architect and design company and/or do some on various design and construction techniques before dismissing them as such. Having seen some of the shoddy construction practices on the high cost boats being made throughout the world, I wouldn't be so quick to be as dismissive as some of the denizens here like to do.
06-04-2012, 16:23  
Boat: Sabre 426
with big flat head screws. They must work well, but they look like junk. And while we're on the subject of plastic, the latches in all the cabinets are cheap plastic crap, half of these had no spring left and you had to poke them with a finger to get them to latch. If Sabre is so high end, why not spend a few extra dollars on little metal latches?

Access seems very poor. Every other step is a lid that opens to the , which requires major surgery to get the steps out of the way enough to do any real . I could tell by the way the screws were all catywampus that the first owner had done this several times. The floor has only two small access ports into the bilge. It looks like it would take a sawzall and major damage to get access to the hull, which would be a shame because it's a really nice floor. As a plus, the access to the quadrant was the easiest I've seen, but the bilge access concerns me. The head liner looks an absolute nightmare to remove where you can, and is fiberglass liner in other places with small accesses drilled. How is this any better than a liner in a modern "production" boat?

The hull to deck joint is glued and screwed. Folks point out this exact same procedure as a weakness in "production" boats, yet here she is with the exact same setup. Why is it OK when Sabre does it, but not anyone else?

I want to learn more about boat evaluation, so I can avoid a few of the I made last time. What am I missing? Why is this boat considered so much better than her production counterparts?

JRM

-- And while I'm typing, a bit of a rant about "optimistic descriptions" of listing brokers. "This vessel must be seen to be appreciated" and "she has been cared for her entire life" seem, to me at least, to indicate a boat in bristol to very good condition. If I drive three hours through traffic each way to see a boat thusly described, I'm expecting good things. Not a neglected, water filled bilge, rusting , dog hair and dirt filled project. Why not be honest, and skip the massive initial dissapointment and anger?

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06-04-2012, 17:07  
Boat: Valiant 40
experts here. You would do well to speak with a marine architect and design company and/or do some research on various design and construction techniques before dismissing them as such. Having seen some of the shoddy construction practices on the high cost boats being made throughout the world, I wouldn't be so quick to be as dismissive as some of the denizens here like to do.
06-04-2012, 17:25  
that will save hundreds of hours. The engineering dept looks at the specs, the bean counters go nuts saying "we have to do this!" pretty soon there are a 100 boats out there with no real world testing. I had one of these salesmen try to get me to stop welding much of the on a line of boats and use their new glue.... I'm a bit of a skeptic.... I told them come to me when it's been in use for 10 years.... just sayin' ..... is anyone sure that structural interior pan is really bonded to the boat that well? We lifted our test hull up with the crane and then let it fall on the concrete floor. The immediately launched it! BTW: the floors in that Sabre look wonderful! Not a a molded pan I see! - Elmore Leonard








06-04-2012, 18:29  
Boat: Bayliner Victoria 2750
07-04-2012, 05:18  
Boat: Sabre 402
spread the loads out and can hold things together even if there are cracks in the joint. Perhaps some of the 'glassing has covered over the bolts on this Sabre? Other things, like toerails, may be screwed to or through the deck, and make it appear to be screwed. Do you have a picture? Is there someone with another Sabre38 MkII who can confirm how it's put together? what the original ports are supposed to be might also help to show whether a previous owner has messed this boat up.
07-04-2012, 05:42  
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)


A NOTE ON SELF-SURVEYING:

I recommend a professional , prior to . You will, of course, vet the boat yourself, prior to swallowing that expense. There are a number of “small things” that can indicate much about the boat’s design, construction, and maintenance. Some of these will relate to MY particular design & construction biases, and apply to boats advertised in good or better shape (‘project’ boats will differ).
In no particular order:

GENERAL PRINCIPLES:

There should be no inexplicable impairment. You should satisfy yourself that you understand the cause of any observed deficiencies, and can evaluate the necessity, difficulty & cost of remediation. ie: Stress cracks in gellcoat? Maybe a big problem, maybe not.
Do not accept any “mysteries” - they’ll always come back to bite you!

Double the estimated cost of , when valuing the boat, or negotiating it’s price. Everything is (at least) twice as difficult or expensive as it first appears.

The general condition of a boat speaks volumes about it’s past treatment. The fit & finish of owner improvements (very often they are not) is another good indicator. An abundance of poorly conceived and/or executed details,. Each of which may be insignificant, could be a “deal breaker”. If I don’t like what I can see, what does it tell me about what I cannot see? Lots of small clues (circumstantial?) make for convincing evidence.

Take written notes about everything you observe. Give your a copy of your complete notes, indicating any particular concerns (especially those that require further investigation and/or explanation).

Hull-Deck joints:

An outward bent flange connection is subject to all sorts of damage, and indicates a focused on cheap construction - look for other “shortcuts”. The same holds true for a screwed & bonded connection.

Look for an inside shoebox connection, with accessible fastenings - bolted & backed (@about 4" centres). Check inside at the upper section of hull & nuts etc., seeking signs of water intrusion. If so - go it’s (almost always) impracticable to or upgrade the hull-deck joint.

& MAST-STEP ETC:

Check the chainplates for signs of leakage, , movement or other deficiency.

Inside chainplates that penetrate the deck are best located on a raised pad, or penetrate the deck at a sloped (canted) location - so that there is NEVER standing water at this location. Standing water will always penetrate a chainplate at some point.
Check for a VERY robust connection - the chainplates must be solidly connected to the structure.

I don’t like outside, hull mounted chainplates. Notwithstanding, the hull must be reinforced at this location, and there should be a clear loading path (someone help me here, I’ve forgotten the terminology) from rig to structure. If you are uncertain (or unhappy with) of how the rig loads are transferred and accepted, there may be a big problem.

Any at a deck penetration (ie: keel-stepped mast) could indicate serious problems.

Check all fastenings for and gesticulation. Dissimilar metals, such as stainless bolts in aluminum masts/booms etc are best isolated, and migh show aluminum oxide. Any “ovalling” of bolt-holes, or surface abrasion (base material) will evidence movement. Why was it moving? These type of deficiencies are often easy to fix, but may indicate the P.O.’s competence or thoroughness, and even the original build-quality.

This is getting much longer than I anticipated [remember, double your estimate ], so I’ll just close for now, with a few quick little tell-tales:

Are pins locked, shackles wired, secured, bilges clean, etc. If the owner doesn’t take care of the little things ...?
07-04-2012, 07:47  
Boat: Bristol 38.8
my Bristol, mostly MK II's and 365's. I also had a walkthrough of a new 426, since one of the showing brokers was also a Sabre dealer.

My impressions of the MK II were similar to JRM's. The cheesy was a non-starter for the admiral. The has limited storage.

I thought the new 426 looked fabulous, although I didn't spend enough time on that boat to look for minor flaws. I can also say that I called Sabre customer to discuss an engine issue on a 365 and I received a prompt, courteous and accurate response.

I would certainly consider a new Sabre if I could afford one, but if I had $500K to spend on a new 426 I'd also be looking at a late model Morris or Hallberg Rassey.
07-04-2012, 08:50  
Boat: Sabre 426
was a non-starter for the admiral. The galley has limited storage.

I thought the new 426 looked fabulous, although I didn't spend enough time on that boat to look for minor flaws. I can also say that I called Sabre customer to discuss an engine issue on a 365 and I received a prompt, courteous and accurate response.

I would certainly consider a new Sabre if I could afford one, but if I had $500K to spend on a new 426 I'd also be looking at a late model Morris or Hallberg Rassey.

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Good Day! Happy early Father's Day to all of the fathers! I am looking for information regarding the Sabre line of downeast-like express boats. I did drop an email and a VM to Sabre and have not had a reply... Rather than bother the dealer I thought I would ask on my favorite Yacht Forum. I have some interest in the 38 & 42 Pictures of Yachts - Sabre 38 salon express motor yacht photos - Sabre Yachts | Sabre Yachts Sabre 42 Salon Express motor yacht photos ? Sabre Yachts, Maine | Sabre Yachts I am trying to ascertain the potential to hang/fit a RIB dink on the swim platform. I am talking about an 11', 8'6" beam, 40horse, close to 800lbs rigged and full fuel tank boat. If anyone has any comments or experience with the potential of this swim platform I am all ears. Thanks. Anything else you would like to comment on about the vessel is welcome as well.

Fishtigua

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Our Finance Director runs a 42 (does that tell you something) and he likes it much better than his previous large Ferretti. As to tenders, the Sabre has a large swimplatform already fitted thus a set of Weaver folding clips may do. Weaver Industries, Inc.: Weaver Marine Products
Having a money person chose a certain vessel and liking it better than a larger MY does say something. It tells me that there is value in the boating lifestyle and in this case that the Sabre is still on the short list. I'll look into the Weaver Industries gear, thanks. G

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There were topside paint issues on some models around 2003. I sold a 2003 MKII 36 that performed well, surveyed well, and the owners are happily cruising Florida/Bahamas. I was impressed with the general quality of construction and finish work. Judy
Thanks Judy, I had heard of some topside paint issues, glad to hear more good experiences with the build quality. G

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Yachtworld has a 43' Sabre with a dinghy lift system. Here is a link to the boat. You may also want to contact a Sabre dealer to see if they have an aftermarket kit available. As I recall they offered the lift systems as an option. View Boat Photos - **************
Great link, that is a good representation of what I am looking into. I will contact the dealer as recommended to discuss more details. G

sgawiser

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We have a 38 with IPS drives By far the best boat we have ever had. The dealer here, South East Florida, is terrific as is their customer service. If you need some information from the customer point of view, send me an email. We are leaving for the Bahamas in a week or so, the third cruise aboard Proof this spring. If you need significant technical information, contact Bentley Collins at Sabre.
Dingy If you need to handle a heavy RIB with a large engine, most of the Sabre's we know about seem to like the Freedom Lift. We did not install one because of the expense.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll check out the freedom lift. Have a great summer since your spring seems to be going well G ps just looked at the freedom lift website, I have bookmarked that one!
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In 1985, after nearly a decade of building its popular Sabre 34, Sabre Yachts significantly revamped the design. The resulting boat-beamier, roomier, faster, and more powerful than the original-is usually referred to as the Sabre 34 Mark II. Despite distinct differences between the two boats, the family resemblance is still obvious. The Mark II, like its predecessor, still hews the performance-cruising line that the South Casco, Maine builder established with the introduction of its very first boat, the Sabre 28, in 1971.

As with all the Sabre models launched before the company ran into financial trouble in the early 1990s, the Mark II was designed by company founder Roger Hewson, a transplanted Canadian engineer who raced International 14s and has been described as a born tinkerer.

Hewsons penchant for lively boats, combined with the detail-oriented Maine craftsmanship, is a chief reason why used Sabres remain so popular among split-personality sailors who enjoy PHRF racing as much as a leisurely summer cruise-something that can’t be said of many boats of the same vintage. Another element that has led to the lasting value of the boat is the strong manufacturer support it enjoyed during its production run. In nearly all of our surveys taken during the mid-1980s through the late 1990s, owners reported exceptional customer service from Sabre dealers and the manufacturer. Even today, the owner of a 25-year-old Sabre will find an active number of owners associations-mostly East Coast-to turn to.

Faced with significant debt problems in 1992, Sabre underwent a major reorganization, and by 1994, the company was revitalized under new ownership. The powerboat business that Hewson started saw a major expansion, and Sabre hired a new house designer, Jim Taylor, who brought in a new generation of sailors to sample his vision of a performance cruiser.

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Hewson clearly listened to Sabre 34 (Mark I) owners when he went about designing the Mark II. While much of the attention went into improving creature comforts and creating more space below, and the hull and deck got much needed attention.

In plan view, there is little hint of the International Offshore Rule (IOR) tendencies toward disproportion that were evident in the Mark I. A more U-shaped, broader, flatter stern replaced the originals V-shaped, IOR-hallmark stern.

The fine bow entry is reminiscent of some Sparkman & Stephens designs from this period, as is the long bow overhang that helps keep anchors from clanging against the hull. Like Charlie Morgan, Hewson preferred a stern that followed the angle of the backstay, an eye-pleasing touch that is most apparent on paper.

The sheerline is flat and contemporary, with a low, well-proportioned cabin-top. While many Sabres sport a fashionable blue Awlgrip hull that brings out the teak toerail, a white gelcoat model will offer fewer maintenance hassles over the long run.

Underwater, the boat has a fine entry, with a U-shaped hull that resists pounding better than some faster, flatter-entry boats we see today. The aft sections are also rounder and fuller than many contemporary cruisers, but theres more than enough flat surface area for the boat to achieve double-digit surfing speeds and still be in control.

One of the universal praises for the boat is how well it handles in a breeze-even at the top end of its design limits. The bolt-on, lead-ballast fin keel has an efficient NACA profile, as does the balanced rudder.

Our test boat was a 1992 Sabre 34 Mark II. Hull number 430, the wing-keel boat was the last hull built. It is owned by Alan Pressman, a Sarasota, Fla.-based regional dealer for Sabre. In 12 to 15 knots of wind, the boat required minimal effort to steer-and sailed herself for much of the time.

The keel-stepped mast is a tall, double-spreader, masthead rig (the Mark I had only single spreaders), with a high-aspect mainsail and overlapping jib. The standard jib is a 305-square-foot genoa, which can test the standard 42C primary winches. Although you can’t expect a Sabre to eclipse a comparable J/Boat in a light-air race around the cans (see Sabre 34 in Context), it enjoys a favorable rating in most Performance Handicap Racing Fleet (PHRF) associations, and will leave many of its contemporaries astern.

The 11,500-pound displacement boat came in three models: the performance-oriented fixed-keel model, which draws 6 feet; the centerboard model, which draws 4 feet with the board up and 7 feet, 8 inches board down; and the wing-keel version, which draws 4 feet, 6 inches.

Interior and Systems

The Mark II featured two interiors, one is an aft-cabin model with a private double to port. Our test boat had the traditional layout: Moving aft from the V-berth, theres a head and shower to port and a hanging locker to starboard. In the main saloon, twin settees face a fold-up dining table. The U-shaped galley is aft to port, across from the navigation station and a double pilot berth.

The boat has a 6-foot, 3-inch headroom throughout most of the interior, and all berths are 6 feet, 4 inches long, even the settees, which will make good seaberths with the addition of lee cloths. Cabin ventilation is good with two hatches and four dorade vents-seagoing essentials that seem to have been forgotten in many contemporary designs.

Although the original brochure calls for two opening ports, the boat we tested had six. Seventy-six gallons of fresh water in two tanks and a 30-gallon holding tank offer adequate range for coastal cruising, but the water and diesel (20 gallons) will likely need to be supplemented for longer cruising. Storage is adequate, and engine access-partially blocked on the portside-is rated as fair to good by most owners we surveyed.

Theres a surfeit of teak trim throughout the boat, and being stick-built-in which the furniture components are built into the hull individually rather than dropped in as a large pre-molded form, as is the norm today-there is more room for owner customization.

The original stove was a two-burner Shipmate alcohol stove; a CNG stove was optional. Since CNG is difficult to source, particularly when sailing in the islands, many owners have made the relatively straightforward conversion to propane. (Sabre ended up replacing the balky Shipmates for many owners without complaint.) Sliding cupboards offer room for plates and canned goods. The icebox is well insulated, although its placement next to the engine room means it needs to work harder than most. A fold-up cutting board adds counter space. It is a tight, but functional galley for a boat of this size.

Standard propulsion is a 27-horsepower Westerbeke (marinized Mitsubishi) with a two-blade propeller. The unprotected offset prop, which exits to port of the rudder at an angle, was cited by a few owners as a concern in areas with lots of lobster traps. Some owners mentioned that they missed the advantage of being able to use prop-wash to maneuver at low speeds.

All through-hulls are bronze and grounded to the keel. The standard electrical system included two 100-amp hour batteries, enough for modest cruising demands. Access to the engine was the number one complaint, particularly the stuffing box, which can only be reached through a cockpit locker. In general, long-time owners rated the overall ease of maintenance on the systems as fair to good.

The Sabre 34s T-shaped cockpit is better suited for daysailing than long-term cruising. There is no place to nap. Crew have enough room to recline against the cabintop, and the helmsmen has a clear view to steer from out of the fray-a positive that comes to light in PHRF racing.

Some single-handers complained that neither the jib sheet nor the mainsail is easily accessible from the helm, but added that an autopilot solved that issue.

The coamings are fairly low, good for leaving and entering the cockpit, and broad enough to sit on in the forward sections. Two catch-all bins, a tray locker (starboard), and a deep seat locker (port), as well as a deep storage area aft, offer adequate space for storing lines and fenders. A high bridgedeck and solid teak hatchboards keep the cockpit dry. There is no molded coaming for a dodger or sprayhood, but many owners have been able to add functional dodgers without too much trouble.

Winch placement is fairly conventional for its day, with halyard winches on the mast. There are two coaming-mounted primaries (Lewmar 42C) for the genoa, a secondary to starboard of the companionway (Lewmar 30C) for the outhaul, and the mainsheet winch to port of the companionway (Lewmar 16C). The jib, mainsheet, and spinnaker halyards on the mast (all Lewmar 16Cs) are served by rope clutches. The 6:1 mainsheet leads to a mid-boom traveller, in front of the cockpit, where it wont interfere with a big bimini top. Most boats have the optional self-tailing primaries; some owners have upgraded to larger primaries-not a bad idea.

Two genoa tracks-one on the rail, one inboard, recessed on the deck-allow for optimal trim on and off the wind. Chainplates are well inboard, allowing tight sheeting angles, even when the sheet is led outside the shrouds. Passage fore and aft is good with teak handholds extending just forward of the mast.

Formidable 10-inch stainless cleats handle dock lines fore and aft, although there are no dedicated mid-ship cleats for spring lines. The anchor locker offers plenty of room for extended cruising. Although our test boat came with a cast fitting to serve two anchors, this is not standard in some early models.

Most boats came equipped with Profurl furling gear, a serviceable product that is now eclipsed by much more reliable equipment. A Profurl boom-furling arrangement was also an option, but this is not something we would recommend.

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Performance

At the end of the day, the reason to look at the Sabre 34 is two-fold: quality of construction and performance. We sailed a shoal-draft 34 in 12 to 15 knots true wind on Sarasota Bay, Fla. Most of the windward work was carried out under a partially furled jib (about 100 percent), which kept the boat moving at about 6.3 knots, when hard on the wind. The inefficient sail shape impacted tacking angles, which hovered around 53 degrees, once leeway figured into the equation.

On a beam reach, the boat trotted along at 7 knots with fingertip control, but off the wind (120 to 145 degrees), speed dropped to 5.7 knots-something an asymmetrical spinnaker would fix.

Helm response and balance was superb throughout the sail-even when we deliberately tried to impart some lee helm-and the boats high-aspect rig quickly translated heeling forces into forward acceleration. Every owner in our survey gave the boat high marks for performance.

Under power at just over 2,000 rpm, the boat cruised at 5.6 knots. Engine noise was above average. Vibration was minimal. At higher, less-fuel efficient speeds, the boat cruised at 6 knots, indicating enough reserve power to buck most tidal currents. Handling under power, as mentioned, is average, better than a full-keel boat, but less than a fin-keel boat with the prop center in front of the rudder.

The boat we sailed was an exceptional example of the Sabre 34 Mark II, and few boats will be as clean or have as many of the upgrades that wed recommend for a cruising model-propane stove, twin bow rollers, and upgraded primary winches and traveller. Nevertheless, even a stock Sabre 34 Mark II will be a cut above boats in the same category.

The downside of having a boat that boasts Maine craftsmanship is that it comes with a corresponding price tag. However, the Sabre doesn’t carry the same cache as a Morris or Hinckley, especially once you stray outside the New England and Chesapeake regions. The Sabre market outside of these regions doesn’t seem to agree with owners optimistic pricing.

We would give a well-surveyed Sabre 34 a very good to excellent rating for a couple or a small family looking for a boat that will serve them well in local club races, yet still offer the chance for summer escapes to the islands or further afield, with the proper investment in equipment. It is not without quirks, but the Sabre 34 Mk IIs many positives far outweigh its downsides.

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