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Farrier tt680.
WA, 3519 posts
Anyone sailed one of those? I am looking at one! Advice please!
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felixdcat said... Anyone sailed one of those? I am looking at one! Advice please! I have never sailed one but there is one in town here. I have watched it sail into the river and I'm impressed by how well it sails and manoeuvres. Tacks fast for a mono hull and is close winded. Makes a lot of sense as a trailer sailer.
VIC, 672 posts
Only downside is interior room.Get in it and lie in the bunks.Other than that get it.I have a tt720 and would struggle to go back to mono hull trailer sailing.
Yes it is a bit small in there! Has a nice bed under the deck toward the back. How does it handle gusty wind and choppy water?
little bit wet.but just goes quicker in the gusts.Take it for a test.
QLD, 2246 posts
Got a clicky link for it felix ?
Plenty of room for hobbits.And they dont like weight aswell.Best bet is to get in and lie down.It is easy to say looking at pictures but i dont fit in my wing berths (length)leaving me to sleep in the rear berth.Its 23ft long but would have the same room as an 18ft mono trailer sailer. There is a good forum on yahoo.Link it from f-boats website.
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From what I have heard the 680 sounds to be a better boat than the 720. I don't think you could go wrong at the price but it shouldn't hurt to throw an $8,000 offer at them. It is a BUYERS market.
The 680 is a bit more user friendly with the aft cabin.As the 720 has the weight of the crew to far back.Which is fine if your cruising but when your racing makes a difference.But when i race we sit out on the amas(pontoons) any way. The 680 is a great first tri and i have been watching the one you are looking at and it seems to be a great buy.I have watched it come down from 15 k over the last year.People usualy get a 680 then 720 for the bigger rig and space inside.Then they go even bigger but they never seem to go back to monos.Their is atleast one of every size on the gippy lakes where i sail and i have crewed on all of them.
Re:- Rail or road. I don't know what the economics of it would be but many years ago I had a car railed from Brisbane to Cairns. The locomotive was diesel powered and the car travelled without a cover. The diesel soot got into the paint work and knackered it. Absolutely would not wash off. It was an old car so I just wet sandpapered it off and gave it a polish. Be warned!!!
Prob best to pick it up yourself.I drove to Bundaburg from Victoria to pick up mine.(always a bit of bargaining tool)Same goes putting it on a truck, although i would say not as bad as a train re diesel soot. Put a post on Trailer sailer place.Or maybe give duckflat wooden boats a call they might know someone in the area.
Felix, talk to Perth based trucking companies as they may have a back load system for moving it back to Perth. Can end up half the freight price.
planesailing
WA, 380 posts
Looks GOOD !! ENJOY.
Thats awesome mate! Meant to be aswell, you got the better boat and it was close to home.Heaps of photos and advice on groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TrailerTris/info .If you do have to get a new trailer stick with tandem as my single axle was hard to get rated tyres for the weight. And check your tramps out real good,plenty of stories of people going thru them.Havent been to the west coast on mine yet but it is a trip in the future.Also you can get the plans on cdrom for her from queensland multi hull club.for about thirty dollars delivered(maybe 40)
Thats a bargain mate!Yeah know what you mean by the mast length.Bit overwhelming after the 680's.What size outboard has she got? If your anything like me you wont be bothered taking vids, or forget, having so much fun!Guess thats a pastime for people who like watching themselves in the mirror.Enjoy!
fantastic mate - always sweet to see someone getting joy out of a "new toy" regards - D
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Farrier Trimaran Plans - F-9A or F-32
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For Sale: Farrier Trimaran – F9A - F9AX - F9R Construction Plans. I can update these to the Current F-32 plans. OPTION A: $1,000 US for current set of construction plans and authorization to build 1 F9A - F9AX - F9R hull from plans. OPTION B: $1,800 US for plans for the New F-32 update/replacement. Please contact me for specifics as original F-9A plans must be returned to Ian in order to recieve updated plans In either case, this is for plans and authorization to build 1 (one) hull only.
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I am thinking about getting a trimaran, I sailed on one this weekend and there was maybe 10 knots of wind and we were doing 7 to 8 knots and the boat felt very balanced! I crew up on a munhaull, we had a 33 ft abbott and it was pretty safe. I am wondering if anyone capsized or if anyone had problems or have gotten in trouble with there trimaran? What are your experiences ?
Why weren't you doing like 20 knots I thought trimarans match the wind speed? I am looking for a 36 footer does Telstar make one? I couldn't find one on the INTERNET.
It is very difficult to do wind speed if you have to punch through 4-6' seas like that. That, and having reduced sail up, reduces your ability to sail at or above wind speed. On flat seas, that is normally quite easy to do. Trying to go as fast as possible is generally what causes most of the multihull capsizes... and I don't plan on having mine turn turtle any time soon. The Telstar 28 has two older siblings, the Telstar 26, which is also a folding trimaran design, and a much larger Telstar 35, but the Telstar 35 is rather rare AFAIK. If you're looking for a folding trimaran in the 36' range, you can go with either the Corsair F36, or the slightly larger Quorning Dragonfly 1200.
There is actually no such thing as a Corsair F36 - I separated from Corsair in 2000, and removed their right to use my F-boat trademarks soon after. There is my F-36 design (which has done a circumnavigation) and the Corsair C36, which I do not recommend. If looking for more information on trimarans, their safety, and performance, then look at my web site at Trimaran and Catamaran Designs By Farrier Marine, Inc. . I even have photos of capsized trimarans. But in this regard I have sailed and raced my trimaran designs for over 40 years now, in some very rough conditions (up to 80 knots), but have never managed to capsize one yet. Well not strictly true, as I did capsize one twice deliberately to check out a righting system. Ian Farrier
ianfarrier said: There is actually no such thing as a Corsair F36 - I separated from Corsair in 2000, and removed their right to use my F-boat trademarks soon after. There is my F-36 design (which has done a circumnavigation) and the Corsair C36, which I do not recommend. If looking for more information on trimarans, their safety, and performance, then look at my web site at Trimaran and Catamaran Designs By Farrier Marine, Inc. . I even have photos of capsized trimarans. But in this regard I have sailed and raced my trimaran designs for over 40 years now, in some very rough conditions (up to 80 knots), but have never managed to capsize one yet. Well not strictly true, as I did capsize one twice deliberately to check out a righting system. Ian Farrier Click to expand...
Sorry, my bad Ian... I knew that you and Corsair had parted ways, and that you did not design the C36, but that it is based on your previous designs in many ways. I have read your site quite often in the past, and have learned quite a bit from it.
GySgt said: Being a newbie, you have a very cool website. I am looking to buy in a couple of years after I get some experience Click to expand...
Anything Ian Farrier touches is absolute GOLD! His designs are truly Second to None. I have often thanked GOD for his attention to detail especially when crossing the Gulf Stream in 10 footers heading home.
I'm a big admirer of Ian's work, too. I'd really like to see his F-33, but it's apparently not in production. Does anyone know how that compares to the Corsair 31?
drsm said: I'm a big admirer of Ian's work, too. I'd really like to see his F-33, but it's apparently not in production. Does anyone know how that compares to the Corsair 31? Click to expand...
You did such an awesome job comparing the Telstar 28 to the Corsair, I was rather hoping for something more enlightening! Even better, I was hoping Ian would chime in (I know you weren't looking at boats that size at the time SD). Steve
LOL... just read this reply... reason I didn't reply with a more thorough answer is that I've not been on a F33 yet. Imasonofasailor- Which Farrier design are you going to get?
I dont know there are so many that I like , the idea would be to just get one built for me! What ones do you think, I like the F33, F32, I deal would be the 36, that way I would not have to worry about upgrading! I I also was thinking in just getting a F24 because they are cheaper, I like the Aft look...
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The F-36 is a large, ocean going, cruising multihull, with the capability of being demounted (not folding) for occasional trailering at 10′ (3.05m) wide. This gives tremendous versatility for an ocean capable boat.
F-36 Sails Around The World!
The trimaran’s superior handling and performance makes it the knowledgeable sailor’s cruiser of choice. Other advantages include a drier ride, with no immersed windward bow to throw back spray, no problems with wingdeck pounding, nor is a high windage boxy cabin required for standing headroom.
The fractional rig is efficient and easy to handle in all conditions, and the boat can be sailed to its full potential with a minimum of sails. A self-tacking jib is optional with the centerboard version and boom can be roller furling. A wire luff genoa (Screacher) set from the bow pole, eliminates the traditional genoa and multiple sail changes, making sail handling a breeze. It’s even more ideal for cruising. Rig size is conservative and this coupled with the F-36’s enormous 108,000 foot-lbs righting moment, gives a very safe cruiser.
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An inboard of 20 to 30HP is recommended, located in a roomy and accessible area under the cockpit. Maneuverability is excellent under power, due to the trimaran’s superior turning ability, its center hull and daggerboard being natural pivots.
The beams are demountable, to give an occasional trailering capability at 10′ (3m) wide. The strut reinforced beams eliminate the need for full width beams, increasing interior room. The beams are smaller, lighter, easier to demount, and allow standing headroom between the forward beams.
Interior can accommodate six to eight, with standing headroom throughout. Galley is to port, and a chart table is on the starboard side, along with a wet locker. Dinette will seat five, and can be converted into a large double bunk. Starboard settee is wide and comfortable, and can be converted into top and bottom bunks.
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Material or building options include both vertical stripped foam and strip planked Cedar or Durakore®. As with all Farrier designs, a monocoque structural system is used, with interior panels being designed to absorb and distribute structural loads making the hull a very efficient, strong, and light unitary structure. The connecting beams are made from either fiberglass or carbon fiber with foam core.
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| L.O.A. | 36′ 10″ (11.2m) |
| L.W.L. | 35′ 8″ (10.88m) |
| B.O.A. | 26′ 1″ (7.95m) |
| Draft | 1′ 8″ (0.5m) |
| D/board down | 6′ 9″ (2.07m) |
| Empty weight (depends on materials/methods) | 5500 – 6500lbs (2500 – 2950kg) |
| Displacement | 9400lbs (4272kg) |
| Sail area (main & jib) | 838sq.ft. (77.5sq.m) |
| Mast Height | 49′ (14.94m) |
| Cost to build: | $90,000 to $130,000 |
| Time Required: | 4500 to 6000 hours |
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This forum was established in 2012 to cover all aspects of Farrier designs including the new F-22 trimaran. It has grown from the original forum seeded by the late Ian Farrier, covering all F-boat multihulls (built by anyone), and has 5 to 10 times the traffic of any other trimaran forum. Corsair built trimarans are also welcome, as are all ...
Hence, I promptly sold the Investigator and got a Farrier TT680 trimaran. I felt I needed tp 'learn' the ropes on a trimaran because of the different dynamics presented in sailing a tri. The Farrier TT680 is my stepping stone to learning how to sail a trimaran whilst I save funds for a larger trimaran, a Farrier or similar 31/32 footer.
43281 posts · Joined 2006. #2 · May 4, 2007. I don't own one, but have sailed on the Farrier-designed Corsairs as well as a Farrier Eagle/Tramp. Corsair has a 36' trimaran that folds, and is technically trailerable, with a wide-load placard. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them if I can. Sailingdog.
It has grown from the original forum seeded by the late Ian Farrier, covering all F-boat multihulls (built by anyone), and has 5 to 10 times the traffic of any other trimaran forum. Corsair built trimarans are also welcome, as are all other sailors who may be interested in multihulls, cat or tri, and just want to find out more.
Highly recommend some way to get out of the elements on these boats, since the high speed and expansive deck area start to wear on your ability to function. Also highly recommend a tiller autopilot. The corsairs/farrier feature a very balanced helm, and therefore a minimal power draw.
Some Farrier trimarans are kept folded in marinas but fouling of the float topsides is an issue and the lateral stability of a fully folded Farrier in a big gale is a bit questionable. On the other hand, Dragonfly trimarans are often kept folded in marinas being more stable when folded. ... Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and ...
Boat: PDQ 36 & Atlantic 42. Posts: 1,178. Look for a Haines-Hunter Tramp or Super-Tramp, later called the Eagle trimaran when built for a brief period in Houston. These are Ian Farrier trimarans, with his wonderful folding mechanism, at 20' LOA. They are readily trailer launched, towed behind a smallish car, and a real thrill to sail.
With the screacher, my boat will sail at wind speed in light air. However, in an F-boat, it is easier to get the winward ama out of the water in light air, and the boat will feel more agile. F31's are always faster than my 920. Sailing on DF920 (and up) will be dramatically dryer than on F24. Also, F24 are often sailed as sport boats - hiking ...
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Farrier Tt680 and other sailing discussion in the Seabreeze general forums, page 1. Forums > Sailing > > General. Subs Active Search New Topic. Subscribed Topics Active Topics Search New Topic. ... There is a good forum on yahoo.Link it from f-boats website. felixdcat. WA 3519 posts. felixdcat.
Farrier Trimaran 680 & 720 owners. Group dedicated to the 680 and 720. Help and advice on spares, repairs and sailing tips and experiences.
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CF multihullers, can you give me some links for Farrier or Corsair skippers who have blog pages for the F30-F36 series. I want to read more about their daily experiences before plunking down my money .
Owner Information. This page is for owners and/or builders of all Farrier designs, and is intended to be a reference page for many matters such as plan updates, regular maintenance, frequently asked technical questions, and various notices. Further information, open discussions, and a good way to get questions answered from both owners or Ian ...
The Telstar 28 has two older siblings, the Telstar 26, which is also a folding trimaran design, and a much larger Telstar 35, but the Telstar 35 is rather rare AFAIK. If you're looking for a folding trimaran in the 36' range, you can go with either the Corsair F36, or the slightly larger Quorning Dragonfly 1200. Sailingdog.
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The F-36 is a large, ocean going, cruising multihull, with the capability of being demounted (not folding) for occasional trailering at 10′ (3.05m) wide. This gives tremendous versatility for an ocean capable boat. F-36 Sails Around The World! The trimaran's superior handling and performance makes it the knowledgeable sailor's cruiser of ...
Wanted. 36' or larger Crowther or similar design 40' ex race. Corsair or Farrier 31' or over: will consider smaller for right price but no sprint models or major projects... In need of sails, rigging due etc is fine. Must be in Australia and during Covid preferably NSW unless able to deliver. _____ Happily haring off into the distance... probably in the wrong direction.