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Anyone familiar with Montego 19 (weekender)?- Thread starter Snowdog2
- Start date Jul 10, 2010
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Hello, My wife and I are looking to buy our first sailboat. Locally there is a 1986 Montego 19 for sale, but I can find almost no discussions or reviews of the boat online. Wondering if anyone can tell me their experiences with one. I would be using it off the outer cape (Cape cod). Another boat I am looking at are an older O'day 20. I am limited in weight I can trailer as I have a 4 cylinder Tacoma, so I can't consider a heavy boat. Any information (aside from specifications which I have) would be helpful. Thanks I've sailed on one in the past when my father-in-law owned one. The boat was easy to launch because the swing keel went up inside of a trunk, and the boat sat low on the trailer. The keel is made of cast iron, and weighs 450# I believe. The cockpit was decent and the cabin was OK too. The only drawback I can think of was the mainsheet configuration. It goes from both corners of the stern to the boom and would hit crew in the cockpit, and sometimes get tangled on to something or other, usually when it's the worst time. The boat was great for going into shallow areas. They sail ok for a day sail, but I don't know if I'd want to weekend on one. The boat and trailer have to weigh at leat 2000#. I don't know much about the O'day, but perhaps someone else does. Mike, Thanks for the quick reply. Is the reason you wouldn't want to weekend on one due to size or handling for a longer trip? Steve I'd suggest that you move up to an O'day 22 or similar for a number of reasons. The 19 and 20 footers are lake boats and unlikely to have important things like life lines. Personally I'd prefer to have them sailing off the Cape, especially if the boat lacks a roller furler meaning you have to go forward to deal with the head sail. Your Tacos towing is still around 3500 gross (boat and trailer) so a 22 would probably be your max. The O'day 22 is 2000 lbs and the Montego 19 is about 1450. BobM said: I'd suggest that you move up to an O'day 22 or similar for a number of reasons. The 19 and 20 footers are lake boats and unlikely to have important things like life lines. Personally I'd prefer to have them sailing off the Cape, especially if the boat lacks a roller furler meaning you have to go forward to deal with the head sail. Your Tacos towing is still around 3500 gross (boat and trailer) so a 22 would probably be your max. The O'day 22 is 2000 lbs and the Montego 19 is about 1450. Click to expand Thank you everyone. I have found an O'day 22 in really nice shape that I am strongly considering. Pricing boats is tricky, however. The 22 I found has very little fading or discoloration on deck, a small amount of typical fiberglass hairline cracking on the deck, the hull is painted last year so it looks excellent- and clearly has been maintained well, and the boat except for its first four years has been in fresh water. The trailer looks ok, and the motor is old but still good (longshaft 6 hp evenrude about 35 years old). Drawbacks on this boat are the motor being old, and the main sail being original. I am also wondering if I would regret getting a shoal keel, rather than a centerboard. Snowdog2 said: Thank you everyone. I have found an O'day 22 in really nice shape that I am strongly considering. Pricing boats is tricky, however. The 22 I found has very little fading or discoloration on deck, a small amount of typical fiberglass hairline cracking on the deck, the hull is painted last year so it looks excellent- and clearly has been maintained well, and the boat except for its first four years has been in fresh water. The trailer looks ok, and the motor is old but still good (longshaft 6 hp evenrude about 35 years old). Drawbacks on this boat are the motor being old, and the main sail being original. I am also wondering if I would regret getting a shoal keel, rather than a centerboard. Click to expand BobM said: In my experience a sailboat with a outboard pretty much sells for what the sails, motor and trailer are worth. The boat is essentially free. A coat of paint on the topsides looks pretty but really doesn't add a lot of value. Hairline cracking is typical on O'days from what I have seen, but is the result of too thick a coat of gel coat during manufacture and is not structural. Let's see if my theory works out. A set of useable sused ails for a boat that size is about $800-1000, the trailer is worth about $1000-1500 and the outboard is worth about $250-400. I have shopped for or purchased all of those items at one time or another. So the range is $2050 to $2900. Price is most likely at the higher end of the range if the trailer doesn't need any work (bunks / rollers okay, lights work and tires don't need replacing) or if recent repairs to sails or engine are represented. How close did I come? Click to expand Re: Your price was closer to what should have been asked Good luck. I think you were smart to walk from a 19 footer for 5k unless it had brand new sails and a brand new motor. Dave MeissnerYou should be able to find a nice Santana, O'Day, or San Juan for under 3K. Dare I recommend a Catalina 22? - This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. 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New to me sailboat- Thread starter ranck
- Start date Apr 29, 2023
I have just purchased a 1982 Montego 20. This is my first sailboat, and it appears to my untrained eye to be in fair shape. It's supposedly spent most of its life on a trailer and being used for weekend outings. It has a 2012 Shore Land'r trailer that is in good shape. My first question is where can I find rigging instructions. It all seems to be there, but I want to learn how to set up while it's still on shore. Second question, how does one know if it needs new gelcoat or if I can just clean up the hull and put bottom paint on it? Again, it looks pretty good to me. No obvious cracks or chips, and how do you paint where the boat is sitting on a cradle/stand? AttachmentsYour best bet is to find someone who has some experience and can help you with the rigging . Most sailors will be happy to share information.. The gel coat will buff out pretty well from what I see in your photo.. You'll need to get it off the trailer to re paint the swing keel.. Looks like fun! tpenfield said: Welcome to iBoats . . . I started my boat ownership with a Catalina 22 sailboat, moved on to powerboats, but also have an O'Day Mariner sailboat that I am restoring. As for your questions . . . #1 - Rigging: Google is your friend and can help you understand the rigging. Here is a link to some information, but there are certainly others. https://sailboat.guide/universal/montego-20 You definitely want to practice rigging and de-rigging on land before you head off to the launch ramp, else you will end up as YouTube comedy fodder. Mast raising is probably going to be the most challenging task, and the penalty of failure is quite high There are lots of mast raising videos that you can search online. #2 - Gelcoat: It depends on the current condition of the gelcoat (i.e smooth/shiny vs. chalky) if you are seeing areas where the white gelcoat has worn off, then it is probably a good indication that a complete re-coat would be needed. so, a judgement call on your part. I would clean it up and see what you think. Re-coating gelcoat requires some skill and equipment. #3 - Bottom paint: You may not need to paint the bottom. BUT . . . if you plan on keeping the boat in the water, it is best to use an anti-fouling paint. Are you going to be in fresh water (lakes) or salt water (ocean)? I have documented my boating experiences and here is a link to my Catalina 22 website . . . http://www.tpenfield.com/Catalina22/ As you proceed, be safe and ask questions, that what the forums are for. Click to expand... Thanks for the responses. The bottom is dirty, and I'll know more once I get it power washed. I have the equipment for that. I need to either build or buy some sort of cradle to get it off the trailer and high enough to bring the keel down. That should make cleaning easier. Definitely, for now it will live mostly on the trailer and used in fresh water for weekends, and a planned beach week at Deep Creek in MD. It's going to need some replacement cushions and wood restoration. I'm familiar with woodworking and upholstery, so feel pretty confident with that. I just want to say I learned a whole lot just reading through tpenfield's Catalina 22 page, and following links to his various projects. Some very good info, especially the single handed mods. I'm probably going to do a few sails this Summer and then more in-depth projects in Fall and Winter months. My primary sailing will be on Claytor Lake in Virginia, and possibly some in Maryland lakes/reservoirs as time allows. Stepping the mast will be your first challenge and should always be done on land. The gin pole is a wonderful aid. Have plenty of help with it until you learn, its very cumbersome and standing rigging can and will get hung up.. Murphy's law! Can't stress enough that you inspect all the hardware, fittings, etc. and be sure you're boat is safe.. If you can find a Marina with a trailer lot you can leave the mast up and save a bit of hassle.. A progress report, slow as it seems. I've been delayed by seemingly endless rain and then family obligations, but I now have a boat lift set up and will be lifting the boat next week to clean/polish the bottom. I stripped all the woodwork off and have cleaned and oiled all the teak bits. Starting to rebuild the console but that's just cutting and mounting a new plywood panel to replace the falling apart old one. Hoping to launch soon. I'll post a new picture once I have to hull cleaned and the woodwork back in place. Maybe with the rigging stood up . . . fingers crossed. So, I ended up dropping the keel out and using a wire brush to remove rust and scale. Then applied POR 15 to hopefully slow the rust progression. Also, power washed and repainted the bottom. - NewBottomPaintAndCleanedKeel.jpg 5.4 MB · Views: 4
looks real good! ought to be a bit quicker now..! nice job on the lift as well.. My son-in-law and I put the mast up while on the trailer and figured out the rigging wires, etc. Then, after painting the bottom and re-installing the swing keel, I towed the boat to Deep Creek Lake in Maryland and put in at the state park boat ramp. I had intended to do a practice launch much closer to home, but time got away from me and we had a slip rental for 4 days, so I took along my grandson (15) and he helped me with raising the mast at the launch site. Unfortunately, this turned out to be just after sunset and the wind totally died. We used the trolling motor to move her to the rental slip for the night. Finally got her out of the slip on day 2 and got wind in the sails. Not a great first sail, but not bad. I found that when I got a good breeze and the speed came up there was a humming vibration sound. I finally concluded it must be the keel or the keel cable vibrating. Is that normal? I think I should replace the bushing on the keel hinge, but didn't have time to do it during my refurb of the keel. Is that a possible cause? Or, do I just have to live with it? flashback said: looks real good! ought to be a bit quicker now..! nice job on the lift as well.. Click to expand... Keel cable 'huummm' is common to lifting keel boats. if you give the cable a bit of slack once the keel is in the fully lowered position, the noise/vibration should go away. Petty Officer 3rd ClassLooks like you have done a lot of good work. Congrats. Suggestion…this is a pretty good forum, but not so much for sailboats. Why not spend some time on a sailboat specific forum like sailnet.com. For every sailor here, there’s probably a 100 over there. Buster53 said: Looks like you have done a lot of good work. Congrats. Suggestion…this is a pretty good forum, but not so much for sailboats. Why not spend some time on a sailboat specific forum like sailnet.com. For every sailor here, there’s probably a 100 over there. Click to expand... ranck said: I appreciate the suggestion. I was just unaware of sailnet.com, and I've been getting reasonable and helpful responses here. But, I have also introduced myself over on sailnet. They have some old discussions thread that actually talk about my particular boat model, so that's good. Click to expand... | | | | | | | © 2001-2024 ./) . . ./) . . |
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Find detailed information about the MONTEGO 20 sailboat, including hull type, rigging type, dimensions, displacement, ballast, sail area, and more. Compare the MONTEGO 20 with other sailboats and join the sailboat forum.
The Montego 20 is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Johannes "Jopie" Helsen as a pocket cruiser and first built in 1976. [1] [2] [3] The Montego 20 is a fixed keel development of the swing keel Montego 19 .
Montego 19 was the swing keel model, the Montego 20 was the fixed shoal draft otherwise basically same boat. MONTEGO 20 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com I recall the 19 that we had (father bought new in 1979 I think), was a sturdy little boat for it's size. 3 stayed rig with swept spreaders. Backstay was an afterthought.
Montego 20 is a 19′ 5″ / 5.9 m monohull sailboat designed by Johannes "Jopie" Helsen and built by Universal Marine Corp. between 1976 and 1985. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in ...
The Montego 20 is a 19.5ft fractional sloop designed by Johannes Helsen and built in fiberglass by Universal Marine Corp. (USA) between 1976 and 1985. The Montego 20 is a light sailboat which is a high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat. Montego 20 for sale elsewhere ...
11. Montego 20 Lake Keystone/Kaw. Sep 24, 2014. #1. Looking for a trailer sailer. No swing keel, funny rigs or fin keels. The Montego rec'vd good review in 1985 and specs look good for what it is. Any big problems I hear the main sheet set up is not ideal but what is? In a hurry pals.
The Montego 20 is based on the Montego 19 (page 45) with slightly expanded dimensions and weight. She also has a two-foot deep stub keel in place of a swing keel, which adds 1011 to her minimum draft. That in combination with her 2,300 lb. weight (versus 2,150 for the Montego 19) makes her less easily trailered than the Montego 19.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Montego 20 is about 79 kg/cm, alternatively 444 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 79 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 444 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
The Montego 20 is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Johannes "Jopie" Helsen as a pocket cruiser and first built in 1976.
MONTEGO 20 Sailboat Data Hull Type: Fin w/transom hung rudder Rigging Type: Fractional Sloop LOA: 19.50 ft / 5.94 m LWL: 17.75 ft / 5.41 m S.A. (reported): 189.00 ft² / 17.56 m² Beam: 7.17 ft / 2.19 m Displacement: 1,700.00 lb / 771 kg Ballast: 600.00 lb / 272…
The Sovereign 20 is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by the Sovereign Design Group as an daysailer and cruiser and first built in 1982. [1] [2] The Sovereign 20 is a development of the Montego 20 , designed by Johannes "Jopie" Helsen .
1 of 2. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of MONTEGO 20. Built by Universal Marine Corp. (USA) and designed by Johannes "Jopie" Helsen, the boat was first built in 1976. It has a hull type of Fin w/transom hung rudder and LOA is 5.94.
The Macgregor is a few hundred more than the Montego. MONTEGO 20 Sailboat details (specs. English) on sailboatdata.com vs MACGREGOR 21 Sailboat details (specs. English) on sailboatdata.com Thanks for the feedback. Ken 02-08-2010, 10:04 #2: captsam54. Marine Service Provider .
The Montego 25 is a recreational keelboat, built predominantly of fiberglass, with wood trim. It has a masthead sloop rig, a raked stem, a plumb transom, a transom-hung rudder controlled by a tiller and a fin keel or optional shoal draft keel. It displaces 4,500 lb (2,041 kg) and carries 1,800 lb (816 kg) of iron ballast.
Universal Marine Montego 20, 1982, Greers Ferry, Arkansas, yacht for sale, sailboat for sale. 7/9/14, ... Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . Universal Marine Montego 20, 1982 Comes with trailer. Great boat to learn on or to trailer. $2900
I am not familar with the Montego 19, just looking at pictures. It looks like it was built pretty bare bones for weekend stays. The O'Day 20 was built for a small family doing weekends and longer. You also have a dedicated supplier for the boat at D&R Marine so the boat is still well supported.
Two mainsails made for two Montego 20's in California and Florida will have different designs, sailcloth, and options based on what is best for the sailor. ... Pair that with Precision Sails' approach to communication and your sailboat will be ready to set sail before you know it. Learn More. Unparalleled Commitment To Helping Sailors. As ...
The Montego 19 is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Johannes "Jopie" Helsen as a pocket cruiser and first built in 1976. The Montego 19 was developed into the fixed keel Montego 20.
I have just purchased a 1982 Montego 20. This is my first sailboat, and it appears to my untrained eye to be in fair shape. It's supposedly spent most of its life on a trailer and being used for weekend outings. It has a 2012 Shore Land'r trailer that is in good shape. My first question is...
Montego 20 Sailboat - Montego Sailboat Montego 20 Pocket Cruiser Sailboat Built by Universal Marine Corporation. The Boat: 1985 Montego 20 Pocket Cruiser was designed to fulfill every sailor's fantasy of exploring coves and inlets, in a pocket size cruiser. Great care has been taken to make the Montego 20 an easysailing boat in every way.
Find detailed information about the MONTEGO 25 sailboat, including hull type, rigging type, dimensions, displacement, ballast, and more. See sailboat calculations, design and builder links, and forum topics.
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MONTEGO 20 : Download Boat Record: Notes. The MONTEGO 19 is the same as the 20 but with a swing keel. Sailboat Forum. View All Topics: ... Numbers below 20 indicate a lightweight racing boat, small dinghy and such; 20 to 30 indicates a coastal cruiser;