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Problems with ageing bonded boat windows on the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 DS

Laura Hodgetts

  • Laura Hodgetts
  • January 5, 2024

Is the window bonding on your Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 DS yacht, manufactured from 2005 onwards, coming undone and causing leaks? You're not alone!

Taped boat windows to stop leaks

Many owners of Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 DS yachts with bonded windows manufactured from 2005 onwards are wishing their boats had more ‘traditional’ portlights.

The window bonding on some is coming undone, caused by exposure to ultraviolet (UV) light over time, and leading to leaks.

Lemon and Lime , a Jeanneau 42 DS, has developed leaks – prompting owner Philip Symonds to investigate what options are available.

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 DS Lemon and Lime

Phil’s Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 DS Lemon and Lime

Phil told PBO : “It’s a very important and relevant topic now as these types of bonded windows are found on many boats and are nearing the end of life of the adhesive. While re-bonding is an option, you have to be able to get them out in one piece.

“Jeanneau has stopped production of spares and while some window types are available, not all, so removal is always risky. For a boat of upwards of £150,000 – or for the 64DS just short of £1million – that’s a dreadful situation.

“This is so serious that if there isn’t an alternative supply of windows these boats will become unsaleable.”

The challenge for owners is to find manufacturers who can replace the window sets .

This means using the old windows as patterns, so owners need to pay for mould tools as well as the windows.

Replacement options for the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 DS

Phil said: “There are two or three UK plexiglass companies who are prepared to do this but it means the boats are without windows for up to four weeks and weatherproofing the boats will be difficult.

“Also, the UK companies’ tooling will only make one boat set before having to be destroyed.”

Three Jeanneau agents have quoted Phil between £1,400 and £2,500 per window, plus the fixing fee.

Phil added: “The windows of new boats are very often now the bonded plexiglass type, cut to shape, fitted into a slot on the hull, and bonded.

“Some are large and the Sun Odyssey has six of these. The problem is that on older boats – mine’s a 2008 model – the bonding is beginning to degrade and they are leaking – you cannot get all the replacement types from Jeanneau and the ones they do supply are prohibitively expensive.

“Another concern is that because of the UV damage the plexiglass can break during removal, so digging them out for a hopeful re-bond won’t always work.”

Boat side windows, often called the ‘eyebrow’

Side windows, often called the ‘eyebrow’ – the bonding, is coming undone due to UV light exposure

Final quote

Phil, a manufacturing engineer based in the Algarve, has now found a Portuguese company that makes multi-use moulds.

He said the quote confirmed is €3,000 (£2,600) for a complete set of six windows, and €2,000 (£1,733) for a second set.

He believes that will fall to €1,500 (£1,300) for subsequent sets.

Phil added: “Jeanneau provides windows with frits – that’s the black edging and primed surfaces. These aspects cannot be shortcut and are essential to achieving a substantial bond when in the boat.”

Since 1995, the Jeanneau shipyard has belonged to Groupe Beneteau specialising in the construction of motor- and sailboats and prefabricated homes.

PBO has repeatedly contacted Beneteau for a response but has yet to hear back.

A UK-based dealer, which specialises in Jeanneau sailing yachts, said: “Unfortunately, Jeanneau is not always able to supply all spares for some of the older generation models and as a dealer, we can only source genuine replacements.

“As a main UK dealer, in these situations we deal with our local UK contractors and we template the windows in place (in case of a breakage when removing) and then remove and template in order to produce replacements on a boat-by-boat basis.

“For boats abroad, we would recommend talking to the local Jeanneau dealer who should be able to implement similar solutions locally.”

Phil is happy to share his research findings. Email: [email protected]

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‘Risk of drowning’ alert for some Jeanneau Yachts issued

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The advice from Jeanneau is to immediately stop sailing. The company has issued a product recall amid safety concerns about seepage around the retractable bow thruster. This recall comes in the wake of the sinking of a Sun Odyssey 410 yacht off the coast of Germany last year.

In June 2024 the European Commission published a safety alert for the Sun Odyssey 410, 440 and 490 yacht constructed between 2020 and 2022, warning of a ‘risk of drowning’ as the boats ‘may sink’ due to a glueing problem with the underwater bow thrusters.

In the Safety Gate Alert statement by the European Commission, they say, ‘Due to a glueing problem, the bow thruster flange may detach and generate a waterway. The boat may sink, increasing the risk of drowning for users.’

Jeanneau had launched a recall campaign in March 2023 as a precautionary measure to reinforce the bonding of Sleipner-Sidepower retractable bow thruster modules in the hulls of the three models mentioned. This advice was updated in May this year.

‘Because the safety of our boats is an absolute priority, we have decided to reinforce the thruster flange on these hulls to prevent the occurrence of seepage,’ Jeanneau said on its website. The statement went on to say, ‘As a precautionary measure, we would also like to advise you that you must stop using the boat until this reinforcement has been carried out.’

Jeanneau said it was necessary, as soon as possible, to: – Inspect the thruster area for water or signs of water ingress. – Check for the presence of water when the thruster is retracted. In case of detection, it is essential to make sure that the thruster is closed and then to disconnect the thruster. – ‘In any case, it is necessary to stop using the boat and to contact your dealer to carry out this reinforcement as soon as possible. We thank you for your cooperation and apologise for any inconvenience caused. Please be assured that your safety is our top priority,’ Jeanneau said.

To check if your boat is affected, you are advised to contact the dealer from whom you bought the boat, or contact Jeanneau Customer Service by e-mail at info@jeanneau.fr.

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28-05-2021, 04:43  
and look ok, but there is this mysterious "window" cuttet right into the side of that ironkeel


Many thanks,


freebritney
28-05-2021, 06:19  
Boat: Sabre 402
suggests replacing keelbolts every so many years.) If the boat's been at the same yard for a long time, you've probably already asked them if they did the and why.
28-05-2021, 06:50  
Boat: no boat any more

28-05-2021, 06:54  
Boat: no boat any more
 
28-05-2021, 08:29  
. What could possibly happened, that they needed to open it from the outside? Permanent ingress and too much from the inside?



Do you think it weakened the strukture of the keel itself and I should walk away?







28-05-2021, 08:38  
Boat: no boat any more
28-05-2021, 08:45  
Boat: no boat any more

!!!
28-05-2021, 10:20  
Boat: Beneteau 423
sump showing up on the keel. Of course you will want a under any circumstance. Look for a that has experience with Jeanneuas and Beneteaus. Ahead of the asking or previous owner if there is a recent survey or if they know of a grounding. A negative response on the latter is inconclusive but if they say yes, then it will be good to know. You might see something on the at the aft end of the keel, or that might be mostly covered with the inner grid.



As a owner I can say that the iron keels are a pain to keep ahead of the rust.
28-05-2021, 11:38  
Boat: Beneteau 40.7
28-05-2021, 13:04  
. The keel has a full cutout for the sump—from one side all the way to the other, instead of a pocket cast into the iron.

I saw this exact thing in the yard the other day. I think it was a though? Someone called it a ‘smile’.

Apparently that fell out of favor and they cast the pocket in to fully enclose the sump.

I’m sure someone smarter on this will chime in.
28-05-2021, 13:34  
Boat: Owner built 60’ Aluminum Expedition Yacht.
are just frightening. Who in their right mind believes with this kind of construction, you have survivability built into a vessel.
It’s boatbuilding at it’s worse.
A fierce bad orca could total out this .
Terrible.
The manatee crew.
28-05-2021, 14:02  
that has experience with Jeanneuas and Beneteaus. Ahead of the survey asking or previous owner if there is a recent survey or if they know of a grounding. A negative response on the latter is inconclusive but if they say yes, then it will be good to know. You might see something on the at the aft end of the keel, or that might be mostly covered with the inner grid.



As a Beneteau owner I can say that the iron keels are a pain to keep ahead of the rust.
28-05-2021, 17:59  
Boat: Cheoy lee perry 48
but still nasty, big job ,remove keel ,and re build ,even the video I didn’t think was all that great for an all yacht .⛵️⚓️
28-05-2021, 19:42  
Boat: Owner built 60’ Aluminum Expedition Yacht.
? Nope.
That’s strength. The manatee crew has made better out of pizza boxes.
Are you looking at those cracks and thinking they are just cosmetic ?
As we have posted before...automobiles are crash tested to determine survival of the passengers. They smash them from every angle. Why don’t they do this with boats. The big OEM builders completely oppose it. This could NEVER pass USCG PASSENGER VESSEL .
But it’s suitable for OCEAN voyages? If you don’t consider your , crew or guests as passengers worthy of these minimum standards...then fine.
Please don’t ask anyone to put their life on the line to you or recover any bodies.
Survivability? Why bother. The buyers are happy. Just re- glue the toy if it starts leaking. You have , a life raft and it’s easy to call for .
No keel, no problem.
Happy trails to you
31-05-2021, 12:22  
Boat: Cal 20

A house is but a boat so poorly built and so firmly run aground no one would think to try and refloat it.
 
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Sailboat Review: Jeanneau Yachts 55

  • By Mark Pillsbury
  • April 26, 2024

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One way to gauge the relative success of a production sailboat is to look at the size of the model’s run: the quantity of hulls sold or the number of years it was offered. After investing in research and development, not to mention tooling and marketing, a company needs to spread those costs over as many boats as possible. To be a winner, a new model should be versatile and appeal to as many buyers as possible. Often, this means multiple layouts and options to meet the needs (and budgets) of private owners and charter companies.

But for the latest sailboat in the Jeanneau Yachts range, the French builder decided to focus primarily on owners. This 55-footer has a layout that borrows concepts more often found on midsize multihulls. There are spacious accommodations for the owner, separate staterooms where guests can come and go without disturbing one another, multiple places to gather or find privacy, and protected spots to navigate and spend time off watch—without having to be down below.

The result is a very different sort of sailboat. In fact, it would be safe to say that Cruising World ’s Boat of the Year judging team had never seen anything quite like it when we arrived for a dockside inspection during the Annapolis Boat Show this past October in Maryland. In the end, we obviously approved of the concept. The Jeanneau Yachts 55 not only earned the title of Best Full-Size Cruiser, but it also it went on to take top honors as the 2024 Boat of the Year .

With so much that’s new and different about the 55, let’s start with what you discover the moment you board using the fold-down swim platform. You then step up to encounter a living/lounging/working area that starts at the transom and stretches forward to take up nearly half the boat’s topsides. The builder calls it a dual-cockpit layout, but that barely begins to describe all that’s going on there.

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Two cushioned seating areas—one is U-shaped to starboard, and the other is an upside-down L-shape to port that opens up a walk-through path for boarding—are located across the transom. Each one surrounds a table that can be lowered to create party-size sun lounges. With the boat’s beam of 16 feet, 4 inches, that’s a lot of room to kick back and relax.

Under the port seats, there’s life-raft storage, and between the tables, there’s access to a garage below the deck. It could handle toys, an inflatable or even a Tiwal sailing tender.

Between the lounges and the pair of helm stations located just forward of them, there’s access on either side of the boat to the walk-around side decks that have become a Jeanneau trademark.

A fiberglass cockpit arch rises up just forward of the steering wheels. On the boat we visited in Annapolis, it connected an optional hard spray hood that covered the forward portion of the cockpit and main companionway, and a hard Bimini top (also an option) that protected the aft area. The Bimini had a nifty sliding fabric panel in the middle that could be opened for sun and stars, or shut for shade and rain.

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Two more companionways are just under the arch, providing access to two private port and starboard guest staterooms. We’ll get to them in a minute. But first, let’s complete the tour of the topsides.

Tucked up forward, under the rigid spray hood, there is another smaller table to starboard with U-shaped seating around it. Call it a breakfast nook or a fine spot to sit and enjoy a book, no matter the weather outside. It’s opposite a forward-facing navigation desk with a chart plotter. Here, a watchkeeper is protected from the elements but still has a clear view all around.

Much like on a catamaran, there’s a provision for another cushioned lounge area on the broad foredeck, giving guests another place to enjoy the great outdoors.

The 55’s interior accommodations, designed by Andrew Winch, are just as unique as those found topsides. The builder describes the layout as being “owners first.”

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I mentioned that two guest staterooms are accessible only from the cockpit. These give the crew (and owners) privacy that’s not possible on a conventional monohull, where all of the staterooms open into the salon.

To port is a VIP stateroom with en suite head and shower, and enough additional space to allow for a small sitting area with a desk or vanity. The starboard guest stateroom, also with en suite head and shower, is a bit smaller because of the location of the galley in the salon, but it still has a double berth. Both staterooms have 6-foot-5-inch headroom.

Stepping down the main companionway and into the salon and master stateroom, the first thought that comes to mind is that it resembles an efficiency or one-bedroom condo in some urban center. In fact, two-thirds of the interior space is intended for those paying the bills. A dining area with L-shaped seating takes up the port side of the salon, with a large-screen television mounted on the forward bulkhead for movie nights.

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A galley is opposite, with an island counter amidships, giving the cook a solid place to brace while preparing meals underway.

Ports in the cabin top and hull let in loads of light, and white walls and overhead panels help keep things bright. The boat we sailed had teak-colored Alpi bulkheads and furniture; white oak is another option.

The owner’s stateroom is forward, through double doors. A double berth is offset to port, with lockers and a sitting area to starboard. A spacious head and shower compartment is farther forward.

Depending on how an owner plans to use the boat, the forepeak can be either a sail locker or a crew cabin.

Buyers also have options when it comes to a standard keel (8-foot) or shoal draft foil (6-foot-2-inch), and either a standard in-mast furling rig or a performance spar with full-batten main. The boat we sailed had the former, coupled with a versatile three-headsail sail plan that included a self-tending jib to simplify tacking upwind, an overlapping genoa for light-air days (both with electric furlers), and a downwind sail that’s flown from a continuous-line furler.

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For motoring, the 55 is equipped with a 110 hp Yanmar diesel with a shaft drive and a three-blade Flexofold prop—and a bow thruster for close-quarters maneuvering. If I had to pick a nit, it would be engine access, which was through a hatch in the cockpit sole. It seemed adequate enough, though not necessarily convenient.

Loaded up with electronics and options, the price tag on the 55 in Annapolis was right around $1.4 million. That included Jeanneau’s Seanapps system, which provides remote boat monitoring, alerts and maintenance recommendations.

Underway, I found the 55 comfortable. The walk-around decks made it easy and safe to move about, and when I wasn’t doing the sailing, there were numerous places to relax and take in the sights.

When my turn came at the wheel, visibility all around was excellent, and electric winches made trimming sails effortless during singlehanded maneuvers. Steering by hand, you can stand inboard, out of the elements, or step out onto the side deck to feel the breeze in your face as you lean an arm over the stainless-steel life rail that encircles the cockpit.

Our test sail took place on Chesapeake Bay in variable conditions that ranged from nearly no breeze to gusts well into the high teens. Tacking in light air—about 5 knots or less—boatspeed was 3 to 4 knots. Later, reaching in 17- to 20-knot puffs, we trucked along effortlessly at 7-plus knots. Some boats do well in light air; some like big wind. The 55 lit right up in both. No wonder it’s a winner.

Designing Outside the Box

A casual sailor walking the docks at a boat show could be excused for thinking that these days, new boats all look pretty much alike. Sure, “innovations” are introduced annually, but a barbecue grill built into the transom or two cockpit tables instead of one are hardly radical innovations. And chines in the hull? Yup, pretty much everybody’s got ’em too now.

But in fall 2023, there wasn’t any other new sailboat introduced to North America that looked anything like the Jeanneau Yachts 55.

When the concept for the boat began to take shape under the shadow of the pandemic, Erik Stromberg, currently the vice president of power and motor yacht development at Jeanneau, was still a sailboat guy and leader of the design team. Tasked with coming up with a sistership for the Jeanneau Yachts 60 and 65, his logical step might have been to simply scale things down. And in fact, designer Philippe Briand did just that.

But the design team also asked, “What happens if you take a 55-foot boat and design it the way people actually use and live on the boat?” Stromberg says. Answering that question led them down a concurrent conceptual path—still toward a big, elegant cruising yacht, but one with more protection and bigger spaces to live in on deck, not to mention a different approach to staterooms that might not be used all the time.

Briand and interior designer Andrew Winch listened to the ideas and went to work.

Ironically, this owner-focused boat drew inspiration from an earlier Jeanneau model called the Sun Loft 47, a six-stateroom vessel designed strictly for Yacht Week events in Europe, where charterers pack the boat with as many people as possible. To make room for six staterooms belowdecks, the galley and entertaining area on the Sun Loft were moved topsides. With the onset of COVID-19, though, chartering shut down, and demand for the Sun Loft waned.

Stromberg says that so far, Jeanneau has orders for more than 30 of the 55s, and the boat is showing broad appeal in Europe and Asia. Here in the States, two were sold during the show in Annapolis—one to a couple who plans to go cruising with their 10-year-old daughter, and another to a couple on the Great Lakes who want a boat to sail and entertain friends. A third is under consideration by a couple of engineers who want to have their offices on board.

Stromberg says that the yard can build 17 or 18 boats a year, and the production run should fall somewhere in the 60- to 70-boat range. He calls the Yachts 55 an interesting project, the challenge being to stay within the limits of what has to work on a sailboat while still being creative.

“We need to keep innovating,” Stromberg says.

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While this cruiser/racer is in many ways a typical french euro-bateau, some aspects of its construction are superior to what parent company beneteau is doing in its boats..

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A relative newcomer with a sporadic history in the American marketplace, Jeanneau was founded in France in 1956 by Henri Jeanneau, whose primary emphasis was building powerful motorboats. It did not begin producing sailboats until well into its second decade of operation.

Like many builders of that generation, Jeanneau in the 1980s became something of an industry orphan. Sold first to Bangor Punta, which also owned Cal and O’Day, it was re-sold to Chatellier Industrie, and later, in 1995, to the Beneteau Group.

Though operating under the same corporate umbrella, Beneteau and Jeanneau have retained their individual identities, like General Motors products, though they share technology and efficiencies in the purchase of raw materials.

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 37

Jeanneau currently builds 4,000 boats annually at its plant in Les Herbier, France, of which 1,200 are sailboats ranging in size from 17′-52′. The Sun Odyssey line is aimed at cruisers, the Sun Fast line at performance-oriented sailors. But the Sun Odysseys, including the 37 reviewed here, are hardly traditional cruisers, what with their fin keels, spade rudders and light displacement. Then again, we’re talking coastal cruising, not serious bluewater passagemaking.

Mainstream is where the sales are, and the Beneteau-Jeanneau combination is the largest sailboat manufacturer in the world, reporting gross sales of more than $300 million annually.

Design Like its predecessor, the Sun Odyssey 36.2, the new 37 was designed by Jacques Fauroux and the Jeanneau design team using CAD-CAM tools. While the 37 is longer, it has 4″ less beam, and carries about 15% more sail area. The 37’s lines are characterized by an almost flat sheer, low profile cabintop that slopes gently forward and arthwartship, short bow and stern overhangs and a reverse transom.

With its emphasis on the cruiser market the SA/D (sail area/displacement ratio) is only 15.56, a function of a moderate sailplan that carries only 315 sq. ft. in the main, and 414 sq. ft. in a 130% genoa.

The displacement-length ratio is a fairly light 188 and the length-beam ratio is 3.08, which means she’s beamy and relatively flat-bottomed. This suggests considerable initial stability, and a boat that likes to be sailed as level as possible.

No PHRF handicap has been established for the 37 as of this writing because the boat is too new.

Construction In the mid-1990s Jeanneau became the first French boatbuilder to receive European ISO 9000 certification, a standard that documents each step of the production process and assures purchasers that each boat meets a specific production standard.

The 37’s hull, according to Paul Fenn, president of Jeanneau North America, is solid, hand-laid fiberglass with Kevlar reinforcements in high-load areas surrounding the keel and mast step. Vinylester resin is used in the outer plies of the laminate to help prevent blistering.

The boat is built without molded interior liners. To provide stiffness, there is a grid of longitudinal hardwood stringers and floors encapsulated in fiberglass and glassed to the hull. This also makes a framework for the sole, floorboards and cabinetry. Bulkheads are bonded to the hull in channels and secured with Sikaflex.

In a departure from the 36.2, the headliner is glued to the underside of the deck and is not removable. Except for wiring for halogen ceiling lights, however, we found wiring and plumbing runs accessible behind interior cabinetry and beneath floorboards.

The hull/deck joint consists of an inward-facing flange at the top of the hull that is glued to the deck with Sikaflex. Then the toerail is mounted over the deck and screwed in place, strengthening the joint and hiding the seam. We prefer the combination of bolts, nuts and washers employed on the 36.2.

The deck is laid up with fiberglass cloth and cored with balsa, except in high-load areas, which are solid fiberglass.

Two keels are available in North America—a deep fin with a 6′ 4″ draft, or a heavier shoal draft version that draws 4′ 9″. Both have bulbs at their tips. Ballast is iron, which is not as good as lead because it is less dense and difficult to keep from rusting. The factory-applied epoxy coating should be diligently monitored and maintained.

The rudder is tall and narrow, typical of today’s performance boats, and made of fiberglass with a stainless steel stock. The rudder shaft is adjusted by two self-aligning bearings.

The engine beds are hardwood/fiberglass stringers into which the engine is secured with lag bolts. A molded pan underneath the engine prevents oil spills from flowing into the bilge.

Standard equipment includes a fuel/water separator, raw water filter, anti-siphon valve and maintenance-free stuffing box.

Jeanneau’s warranty is five years on the hull and deck.

Deck Layout The mast, boom and deck hardware are supplied by a diverse group of American and European manufacturers. The double-spreader rig is by Z-Diffusion. The spreaders are swept aft 21°. Tracks by Amiot for headsail sheeting are located well inboard, along the cabin, which should help windward performance.

The single upper and single lower shrouds are led to a single stainless steel deck plate; rigging loads are transferred to the hull via stainless steel rods through-bolted to wood structures glassed to the hull. Standing rigging is 1 x 19 wire.

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 37

The split backstay is essentially non-adjustable. One could rig a pair of blocks and tackle to squeeze the stays together, which would rake the masthead aft and tension the forestay. But this boat is a bit big for this small boat trick. The purpose of the split backstay, of course, is egress from the swim platform to the cockpit.

Walkways forward are 17″ wide. The double lifelines are 25″ high. Additional handholds are 68″ teak rails running from the companionway to the shrouds.

A 2″ high anodized aluminum toerail provides additional security. However, we’re puzzled that it is not perforated, a feature that allows you to shackle snatch blocks for varied sheeting angles, and quickly drains water overboard. Jeanneau’s solid toerail must be more for style.

The bow pulpit is 28″ high and is cleverly designed so as not to be in the way when hoisting anchor. Aiding in this matter, the Profurl furling drum is 26″ above the deck, so is also out of the way of anchor and rode coming aboard.

The stainless steel stem fitting has double bow rollers, and there is a deck-mounted Lofrans windlass that one could consider relocating to the 37″ deep by 30″ long anchor well, just to clear the foredeck.

The steering system is by French-maker Goiot Innovations; the pedestal is bulkier than we’re used to seeing, perhaps a reflection of a marketplace gone gaga over instruments. Our test boat was equipped with a 36″-diameter stainless steel destroyer-type wheel; a larger diameter wheel would make it easier to steer from the rail. An optional folding table mounts on the front of the pedestal.

Considering its 35′ length on deck, the Sun Odyssey 37 has an enormous cockpit, especially with the table down. Seats on each side are 74″ long, 16″ wide, with 12″ backrests, except in stern quarters where backrests are only 7″ tall. The seats are covered with teak and the backrests angled outboard, which provide excellent lumbar support. A teak strip on the centerline of the cockpit sole provides a footrest when heeled. This is very important on today’s beamy boats where the opposite seats are too far away to reach with your feet.

Running rigging lines lead aft through turning blocks to Spinlock XA and XT sheetstoppers mounted atop the coachroof. Winches are Harken two-speed, self-tailing 32s; primary genoa winches are Harken 44s.

Those who think it is impossible to have too much space in cockpit lockers will relish this cockpit. The 44″ deep x 57″ long (at its shortest point) x 42″ inches wide port lazarette is nearly large enough to serve as a berth; it is handy for storage of an inflatable raft or sails.

The emergency tiller stows in a second area, 25″ x 48″. A third slightly smaller area will take hatchboards and smaller items.

Propane tanks are located in the port corner and vented overboard per ABYC standards.

A unique touch is that the helmsman’s seat accesses the swim platform by folding downward until it is flush with the deck; we think that’s an improvement over seats that tilt upward, which may require a crew to move, or may unexpectedly close.

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 37

The three-rung, stainless swim ladder is permanently attached to the swim platform and secured by bungee cords; it extends 20″ below the water’s surface, but would benefit from a handle for reentry to the boat. The swim platform is 15″ long, 60″ wide, and is equipped with a handheld shower.

Accommodations Two interiors are offered, a three-cabin model popular in Europe with charter operators, and the two-cabin version we tested.

The two-stateroom model has a double berth in the starboard quarter and a head to port, both of which are larger than those in the three-cabin version, which has mirror-image staterooms aft. The skipper’s stateroom in the bow is identical in each model.

There is no bridgedeck. Stepping over the 12″ companionway sill and down 14″ to the ladder takes some getting used to. The four curved wood steps are covered with nonskid tape and there are handrails to each side of the companionway. A finger rail running the length of the saloon adds a good handhold.

Headroom is 6′ 3″.

We are impressed with dramatic improvements in the fit and finish of cabinetry and wood surfaces.

Jeanneau has historically purchased, dried and milled its own lumber. Fenn told us that the company recently invested more than $1 million to purchase machinery that sands, seals, dries every piece of wood on the boat, then applies three uniform coats of varnish. Wood components are then cut to close tolerances by computerized saws; edges are finished by hand.

The cabinetry on the boat we inspected reflected close attention to detail with smooth, well-finished surfaces and tight joinery.

There are Goiot hatches over the saloon and forward stateroom, and four portlights on each side of the cabin.

The starboard stateroom has 6′ 4″ headroom, a rectangular 84″ x 81″ berth, a 17″-wide hanging closet and 12″-wide storage compartment. Two 11″ x 4″ ports in the hull and an opening port in the cockpit footwell supplement ventilation.

Most of the space below the berth is designated for plumbing and wiring, battery storage, and a fuel tank. An inspection port for the stainless steel tank is precut in the storage cover.

The L-shaped galley is forward of the stateroom in a space uniquely defined by a 50″ long piece of custom glass 9″ high running along the forward edge of the counter, a nice accent. Otherwise, the galley is rather ordinary, but large enough to be functional. It is equipped with a 40-gallon ice box with 12-volt refrigeration and Force 10 four-burner stove with oven.

The head and nav station are located opposite the galley.

The spacious head has two compartments separated by a Plexiglas® partition. The 28″ x 37″ shower compartment is aft. The toilet is by Jabsco.

The nav station has been repositioned to face forward, overcoming an objection we had to the 36.2. Cabinets and shelves provide space for radar, VHF, stereo, GPS and chartplotter, and books, binoculars and other tools.

In the saloon, the C-shaped dinette seats four adults. The mast compression post, located at the forward end of the table, is well camouflaged with a gray leatherlike material. The settee converts to a 74″ x 48″ berth.

A second settee to port measures 65″ x 24″.

Forward, the master stateroom berth measures 85″ wide at the head and 81″ long. The 85-gallon water tank is located underneath. Reading lights, a port overhead and shiny gelcoat surfaces provide and reflect light.

Performance Our test was arranged by Don Durant, president of Cruising Specialists in Alameda, California, a longtime Jeanneau dealer who also places them in a charter fleet.

He handed us the keys to the engine, gave directions to San Francisco Bay, and sent us on a singlehanded excursion.

The 27-hp. Yanmar diesel outfitted with a two-blade fixed propeller powered the boat in smooth water at 5-6 knots.

The Sun Odyssey 37 turns easily within a boat length and, more importantly, backs in a straight line, as we discovered when forced to back into a space between two anchored boats.

Because we were singlehanding, we appreciated the optional in-mast mainsail furler, and standard headsail furler. Both sails were flying within 30 seconds of reaching the sailing grounds, assisted by a pedestal lock that held the boat on a straight course.

Sailing in 5-11 knots of wind, we managed to sail closehauled at 4.5-5.3 knots. The helm is very responsive and the boat accelerates quickly out of a tack. The 37 sails to within 35°-40° of apparent wind and the compass indicated she tacks through 85°-90°.

We reached similar speeds on a close reach and discovered that she’ll bury her shoulder and sprint forward at 120° of apparent wind.

However, we think the boat is capable of significantly better performance. Our test boat was even more undercanvassed than the standard rig; the in-mast mainsail furler necessarily results in a small, roachless mainsail, and the genoa furler was tacked 26″ above the deck.

We’d prefer to pile on the sail and reef when necessary; we would especially like to sail this boat fully crewed with a spinnaker in steady 20 knot breezes.

Movement about the cockpit was effortless; we moved in two steps from the wheel to winches and sail controls on the cabintop. Genoa sheets were within reach from the wheel.

Conclusion The Sun Odyssey 37 is manufactured to exacting standards by a major builder supported by an extensive dealer network, North American service department, and five-year warranty.

She’ll provide casual cruisers with performance equivalent to her major competitors, and will reward an investment in quality sails and good crew work with more exciting sailing.

She’s equipped with deck hardware that is well organized and easy to manage from the helm, though we’d consider a larger wheel. In the years to come, replacement of some foreign hardware may be difficult.

Our preference is the two-cabin arrangement, which provides berths for six adults and has a more spacious head.

The nav station is larger than those found on similarly sized boats. The galley is compact but functionally adequate. There’s storage space throughout the boat, including hanging lockers large enough for dry and foul weather gear.

Engine power is adequate for most coastal sailors. Cruisers may want to consider the addition of an optional water tank located in the aft stateroom.

The Sun Odyssey 37 seems reasonably priced at $115,000 FOB the East Coast. Expect to add $10,000-$15,000 for instruments and options. For comparison, the Dufour 36 starts at $141,000, the Tartan 3700 at $186,000, and the Beneteau 361 at $110,000.

Contact- Jeanneau North America, 105 Eastern Avenue, Annapolis, MD, 21403; 410/280-9400; www.jeanneau.com.

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Beneteau Vs Jeanneau: Which is Better?

Beneteau Vs Jeanneau: Which is Better?

I want to start this article by saying that both Beneteau and Jeanneau produce fine boats built to high standards, and you can’t go wrong either way. However, in today’s article, we will take a closer look at both brands to determine each’s pros and cons and hopefully help you make up your mind when purchasing one. 

Beneteau offers a wide range of sailing boats in various sizes, from small boats such as the First 14 to bigger ones like the Oceanis Yacht 62. In their production line, there are power boats as well as sailboats ideal for both leisure boating and sports events. Beneteau is a reputable brand to be reckoned with as far as international boating standards are concerned. Their boats have won famous international races such as Fastnet, Sydney Hobart, and the Middle Sea Race.

The Beneteau group acquired Jeanneau in 1995, so Beneteau and Jeanneau boats are essentially the same brand with some differences in how the two of them do things. Jeanneau produces luxurious and timeless boats by architects with a world-class reputation between 33 feet (like the Sun Odyssey 349) and 64 feet (like the Jeanneau 64 ). Their boats are famous for their comfort, sportiness, and sheer luxury. Jeanneau is famous for making their customers’ comfort a top priority, and personally, I like the timeless design.

Beneteau Vs Jeanneau – Overall Built Quality

According to my personal experience, an interview that I did with a boat surveyor and an online independent boat owners review group, there have been subtle choices of the Jeanneau newer models having a stronger build than the previous Beneteau boats. This is because the Jeanneau’s hull is built using the glassed-in stringers and floors and won’t come unglued. On the other hand, Beneteau has a dropped in moulded pan model. The glassed-in grid system is superior to the glued-in liner system.

Besides that and a few other variations on different architectural approaches, the overall built quality is typically the same, and many of their boats are even produced in the same factories.

Beneteau boats are often made for charter and the family market, with design towards more roomy interiors and bigger, more comfortable cabins and galley. This means more storage in the cabins and roomier bathrooms. Jeanneau boats, however, perform better as cruisers. They point well, do not often creak and slam, and are lovely sailors that ride well with the wind. The keels are robust, and these features culminate to make them better under sail. Still, even though their interior has enough space and provides comfort, they come second to the Beneteau in that aspect.

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Jeanneau has promised and delivered its customers on an international scale peace of mind concerning their cherished Jeanneau boats. With an extended general warranty which was moved up from 2 years to 3 years, customers can boldly cruise wherever on earth and never need to worry if the part they are sailing in voids their warranty or not. They have a 5-year blister warranty on hull blistering thanks to the new material resin they now use as a barrier coat. The 7-year warranty covers all Jeanneau boats’ structure exclusively, which means that all deck and hull repairs with regards to manufacturing defects as recognized by technical services are covered under this 7-year warranty package. What’s so much more is that this 7-5-3 warranty is transferable upon the boat’s resale to future owners. So, the Jeanneau warranty can still cover a second-hand buyer, which helps with the resale of your boat.

The Beneteau group parts and labor warranty for replacing any defective parts as detected by professional technicians in the department is offered. This will last for 3 years following the delivery of your purchased boat. Then similarly to Jeanneau, they also offer a 7-year structural warranty that will cover the expenses of any fault that is deemed by your dealer’s diagnosis to be the manufacturer’s fault. This period of 7 years starts counting following the purchase of a new boat from any authorized retail outlets.

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Architects and Designers

Beneteau first did architectural work with an outsider in 1975. This collaboration produced the First 30, and since then, Beneteau crafts have been boats to reckon with at sea. Today Beneteau continues to partner with seasoned architects to make the best naval crafts. These architects go to great lengths to make real innovative stuff. Some of these well-known architects and their companies are Pierangelo Andreani of ANDREANI DESIGN, a designer and an architect; Jean Berret & Olivier Racoupeau of BERRET-RACOUPEAU DESIGN; Robert Biscontini of BISCONTINI YACHT DESIGN, who doubles as a Naval architect and a designer. These renowned companies and men have been and are behind the architectural structure and design of Beneteau crafts.

Jeanneau has worked out something similar to the Beneteau in line with their design department. Their boats are distinguished by their elegance, with constant innovation drawn in by the crème-de-la-crème in the naval architecture niche. Together with the well-tempered execution of the Jeanneau project teams, these designs help to achieve the attractive and easy to handle boats they are well-known for. Some of their architectural designers include Daniel Andrieu of ANDRIEU YACHT DESIGN; Vittorio Garroni, CEO of GARRONI DESIGN; Marc Lombard of MARC LOMBARD DESIGN; and Andrew Winch of WINCH DESIGN.

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Beneteau’s revolutionary Dock & Go System is a kind innovation in the boating world that eliminates the worry of manually maneuvering your watercraft into a dock and providing a solution to the cumbersome task of having to handle your boat in close quarters. The new Beneteau boats come with a joystick that synchronizes a pivoting saildrive base and bow thruster. The Dock & Go system combines the engine’s assistance and bow thruster to give the same thrust both astern and ahead. It is also compatible with feathering/folding propellers, which helps optimize a yacht’s thrust for all-around maneuverability.

Jeanneau partnered with the ZF Marine Industries group to create a similar Dock & Go System, one which allows a joystick to direct the boat to whichever direction within a 360 degrees angle just with the push of a button. They named this system the 360⁰ docking, a name culled from the directions. This system can move the boat at the desired speed for an easy and fulfilled experience. Subsequent models of boats were released after the innovation came fully equipped with it.

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Building Materials

As for building materials, the Beneteau group uses resin and balsa core to build their hull. Balsa core is a sandwich laminated between the inner and outer fiberglass material. This balsa core permits resin quantity reduction in each hull constituent while still maintaining the desired structural strength. Resin constituent reduction in the hull means lighter weight and better sailing. It can also make the boat go faster. Balsa core is infamous for high resistance, noise reduction, and insulation. Wood for their boats is reportedly purchased from only certified and controlled sources who cut with the good of the ecosystem at heart. Alpi Wood seems to be their favorite choice, and why wouldn’t it be? Alpi Wood perfectly suits timber for marine products and is definitely a renewable resource.

Jeanneau makes their modern monohull using the vacuum resin infusion molding technique, and they also use something similar when they make the deck. This is implemented to control weight and also to create a quality finish. No wonder Jeanneau boat owners always have some scintillating (no matter how subtle or little) to say about their boats finishing. They have also been making use of fiberglass to make their hulls since 1958 and because this material is just as -if not more- reliable as wood which has been the preferred choice of building material.

They use this fiberglass technology known as an infusion to make hulls for bigger boats. Infusion is where they lay up dry fiberglass cloth in the mold and enclose it in a vacuum with a plastic film. Then they pour the resin to seep in and seed the entire cloth. The result is an overall weight reduction and optimization of the resin quantity to increase the strength and resistance of each piece produced.

Beneteau Vs Jeanneau – Final Thoughts

Much, yet not enough, has been said about these two innovative boat brands, and this is because there are so many good things to say about both Beneteau and Jeanneau. Because both brands are basically the same company, many similarities have arisen in the course of our comparison. Not to worry, though, because both brands are constant award winners in races and yearly awards and what is more important is that their owners are the proudest to own them. 

Personally, although I believe that Beneteau boats are nice and comfortable and sail reasonably well, Jeanneau boats are better as they feel and sail like proper sailboats. Jeanneau boats point well, sail better and don’t creek as much or slam as hard. Also, keel fittings feel more robust and feel better-built all around.

Pro Tip:  If you are torn between buying a Jeanneau or a Beneteau sailboat but are unsure which one you should go for, then I strongly suggest that you charter each of the boats for at least a week. That way, you will find out which boat fits your needs better and which one you like better. That way, you can avoid making an expensive mistake.

Peter

Peter is the editor of Better Sailing. He has sailed for countless hours and has maintained his own boats and sailboats for years. After years of trial and error, he decided to start this website to share the knowledge.

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Is there a serious cruiser behind the new Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 410's bold looks? Graham Snook went to find out

Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 410

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With her full-length chine, reverse bow, twin rudders and forefoot rising out  of the water, the new Jeanneau Sun Odyssey  410 has clearly taken inspiration from the latest racing boats, like the Class 40s.

While designer Marc Lombard has included some of  these performance-enhancing elements, he hasn’t left out the necessary ingredients to make her a comfortable, safe and easily-driven family cruiser.

Furthermore, a good dose of innovative styling and details have been added to the mix to make life easier and more pleasant on board.

Aft view of the Jeanneau 410

She is well-balanced, easily driven and satisfying to helm. Credit: Graham Snook Photography

Following in the wake of the 490 and 440, both launched  in 2017, the 410 shares the family’s unique sloped deck that sweeps from the gunwales down to the sole of the cockpit  for stepless deck access, as well as the distinctive family looks.

There is evidence of creative thinking below decks too, with some impressive stowage solutions around the galley.

But is she just a rocket ship with big windows and a fancy interior, or is she a serious prospect for cruising families?

THE TEST VERDICT

The Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 410 is well-mannered, quick and fun to sail. That a boat with this much volume can sail this well is testament to the full-length hull chine concept.

Despite carrying her beam a long way forward, the hull shape allowed the designers to maintain a relatively narrow entry and slippery underwater hull shape.

The end result is a boat that is well balanced, easily driven and satisfying to helm.

A pair of lighter composite wheels would be the cherry on top to further improve her responsive feel.

Galley on the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 410

Amidships, the galley receives plenty of natural light. Credit: Graham Snook Photography

For a coastal cruiser with occasional offshore tendencies, the deck layout, galley, and stowage down below are all very good and challenged the norm; these innovative features really set her apart, even without taking her sailing.

While I was testing the first boat out of build, there were finishing details that had been overlooked that sadly detracted from the feeling of quality — floorboards, rough edges and unsupported panels.

Addressing these will bring this boat up to her full potential.

WOULD SHE SUIT YOU AND YOUR CREW?

For a couple with a family, or friends, she offers a large, sociable cockpit with the main controls at the helm so the boat can be sailed shorthanded, leaving crew to be as involved or otherwise as they want to be.

She’s genuinely enjoyable to sail, although if you opt for the smaller self-tacking jib, a larger code zero sail for light winds and off-wind sailing will be a good investment.

We didn’t get to sail her in strong winds to see how the hull handles waves, but her form stability and twin rudders promise to keep her feeling under control.

Jeanneau 410 cockpit

The asymmetric cockpit offers more space on the port side of the cockpit table. Credit: Graham Snook Photography

Taking inspiration from racing yacht design for the cruising market is nothing new, and it’s easy to see the gains this approach has brought this boat.

Additionally, the stepless deck access from the cockpit ramp is quite unique. Lovers of traditional lines may balk at the vertical topsides, but the volume is something few cruising families would refuse.

How Jeanneau has used that volume, however, is what really makes the 410 stand out.

FACTS AND FIGURES

Price as tested: 
£262,269 LOA: 12.95m (42ft 6in) Inc bowsprit Hull Length: 
11.99m (39ft 4in) LWL: 11.47m (37ft 8in) Beam: 3.99m (13ft 1in) Draught: 2.14m 
(7ft) Displacement: 7,784kg (17,161lb) Ballast: 2,003kg (4,416lb) Ballast ratio: (25.7%) Displacement: 142.7 Sail area: 
77.1m2 (830 sq ft) SA/D ratio: 20 Diesel: 
200 litres (44 gal) Water: 
330 litres (73 gal) Engine: 40hp Transmission: Shaft RCD category: A Designer: 
Marc Lombard/Piaton Yacht Design/Jeanneau Builder: Jeanneau UK Agent: 
Sea Ventures Tel: 01489 565444 Website: www.jeanneau.com

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Jeanneau SO410 review: lift keel opens up options

  • Toby Hodges
  • October 21, 2021

With its lift keel option, the Jeanneau SO410 has a potent trump card: It has the draught of a Class 40, yet can also nose into the shallows. Toby Hodges was intrigued

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If you sail in tidal harbours or shallow waters, your choice of midsize new production yachts is more limited than you may realise. While most manufacturers offer a shallow draught version of their fixed keels by adding more weight to the bulb to compensate for the reduction in righting moment, this is not a compromise all sailors are willing to make. Jeanneau, on the other hand, has long offered a lift keel on its smaller models, yet by doing so on something the size of the new Jeanneau SO410, it has established a clever niche.

The Vendée yard certainly didn’t follow the status quo when it developed its eighth-generation Sun Odyssey line three years ago and the Jeanneau SO410 adds to a string of innovations for this latest range.

First came the groundbreaking bow and hull shape, together with the walkaround deck design on the SO440 and SO490. Now comes this lift keel option, which is technically a hinging ballasted keel. It is a similar concept to that employed by Pogo for its performance yachts, yet Jeanneau is the only large scale cruising yacht manufacturer to offer such a system.

Consider the fact that the standard draught of a Jeanneau SO410 is a conservative 2.25m and the shoal keel version just 1.6m deep. Alternatively, this lift keel version reaches down to 2.97m/9ft 8in, which is the draught of a Class 40 race boat and a substantial difference in potential pointing ability. Then, at the push of a button at the helm, this swings up to reduce it to just 1.37m/4ft 5in.

This €20,000 option is therefore a prospective game-changer for those wanting to sail efficiently to windward. For example the owner of the test boat, which is the first lift keel version of this model in the UK, wants to sail regularly from Falmouth to the Isles of Scilly with his large family. So he wants to cut passage times when sailing against the prevailing westerlies yet be able to tuck into the coves on arrival.

We had a brief opportunity to sail his new boat with agents Atlantic Yachts in Plymouth before it was handed over the following day.

Jeanneau SO410 under sail

The SO440 and SO490 were the forerunners for this modern trend in hull shapes and first impressions of the Jeanneau SO410 are of another contemporary, powerful, aggressive-looking design.

This Marc Lombard interpretation continues and refines that full bow, chined and chamfered look – elements which help give maximum internal volume yet keep the wetted surface narrow. The forefoot and first 0.5m below the dreadnought bow is also noticeably dry.

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Chines help create volume and stability, while twin rudders give the beamy hull plenty of grip. Photo: Josh Tarr

A bow thruster is an option most owners reportedly take and while that sounds like overkill for this length of boat, I can understand why. The light, voluminous bow gets taken by the wind easily when under motor, which makes manoeuvring tricky, particularly in reverse.

Typical British summer conditions greeted us in Plymouth Sound, with 15-20 knots westerly winds that were really puffy under the dark clouds. It was the first time the boat had sailed, so I was surprised and impressed with how quickly and easily the Jeanneau SO410 found its groove. It never felt pressed and was easy to maintain good speeds (very close to the polars in fact).

We averaged 7 knots beating and 9 reaching. It was also a fun yacht to sail off the wind, deep reaching with the swell, where we nudged 9.5 knots with the Code sail. I was left wanting more, which is always a good sign.

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The bowsprit integrates the bow roller, an option needed to keep the anchor clear of the reverse stem. Photo: Josh Tarr

Worthy of note were the form stability of the hull shape and the ability this keel gives you to point high to the wind (tacking through 70°). It remained very light on the helm, yet with enjoyable and direct control. Marc Lombard is a veteran designer of race yachts around this length, so the performance and handling of the SO410 should perhaps come as no surprise.

The grip of the deep twin rudders and deep keel gave me plenty of confidence to sail around the moored yachts in Cawsand Bay. Sailing heeled and powered up on the wind is addictive. The mainsheet and genoa sheets are on neat bridle systems and while the latter allows for adjustment to lead the sheets inboard for tight pointing, the lack of a traveller option means it’s almost impossible to trim the main to a similar high angle.

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The deep swing keel lifted. Photo: Josh Tarr

Managing the sheets from the two aft winches is a little fiddly. You need to pre-plan tacks to ensure the new working genoa sheet will be on the correct winch, swapping it with the German-led mainsheet. However, a real benefit the ramped side deck design brings is the option to stand outboard to work the winch yet with the security of over 1ft of bulwark to brace against.

Both sheets on the test boat had clutches, which allow you to free up the winch, but can cause issues for genoa sheets during tacks if accidentally left on. We also found these sheets consistently snagged the forward mast base cleat during tacks, so moving or covering that cleat would be prudent.

The winches and pedestals are positioned right aft to maximise cockpit space, leaving a compact space behind the helms. However, you do have the option to either sit athwartships, or take the unique position of sitting facing forward with your legs outstretched on the side deck.

The resultant cockpit size is impressive, as is the protection afforded by the deep coamings and large sprayhood. There is no stowage for sheet tails so bags would need to be fitted to keep things tidy. Elsewhere, deck stowage is adequate in two shallow bench lockers, a quarter locker and a sail locker.

Jeanneau SO490 down below

The SO410 offers plenty of accommodation options, from two cabins and one heads to three cabins with two heads, and it is arguably the excellent proportions and the amount of space it provides in all areas that help it stand out from the competition.

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Spacious, light and airy in the main saloon with a practical C-shaped galley. Photo: Bertrand Duquenne

This space allows for the inclusion of a proper navstation, ample aft cabins and an impressive en-suite owner’s forecabin. The slab topsides between the upper and lower chines helps create the beam in the galley, saloon and forward cabin.

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Rectangular berth in the huge forward cabin. The lift keel version angles this berth. Photo: Bertrand Duquenne

Below decks has a modern apartment feel and I liked the fabric on the bulkheads and neat stowage solutions throughout. The central galley configuration, which has a practical C-shape for working at heel, is one of the main differences over the old SO409. It includes a deep fridge and ample stowage.

The door to the forward cabin has been offset to allow space for the keel box, which removes the option of a convertible double berth in the saloon. The central chaise longue is a great feature and makes clever use of the keel box. A very comfortable seat in the heart of the boat, it also extends out flat to make a nice child’s berth. The manual pump for the keel ram is mounted below and there is a spy glass for checking the ram position.

The forward cabin has an intelligent layout too. By angling the headboard and berth against the forward bulkhead it creates room for a proper rectangular berth (as opposed to a typical V-shape) as well as a good en-suite heads and shower compartment offset to port, which is the same size and configuration as the aft heads.

There is also plenty of space and light in the near identical aft cabins, which have low berths, modest stowage, and large side access panels into the engine room. The curved and fiddled joinerwork, notably the central stowage unit between navstation and galley, provide good support when walking around at heel. Dampeners and spacers are used on the soleboards to prevent some creaking, but unfortunately much of the plywood endgrain has been left exposed and unsealed.

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The SO410 has a smart modern hull shape which offers good sailing manners and behaviour, and has been used wisely to create an appealing accommodation layout. It’s another versatile model from Jeanneau, and one with an added twist – a proper trump card option. If you want a 40ft+ production yacht with shoal draught but deep keel performance, this is the only option. It will allow you to effectively take the competition at the traffic lights and claim the inside track, then when you get to your destination you’ll be able to pick the best parking place too.

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DC voltage readout fluctuations (between 11.0 and 12.9 VDC when the batteries were actually 13.8 or better). Low Voltage Warning Beeping...

Water tanks showing empty warnings when full, and/or not displaying one of the two water tanks at all (i.e. only Tank 1 displays).

Back Glowing LED's of Deck Flood Light and Steaming Light Switches while switches were off.

Occasionally (two days in the last 5 months) the panel would behave and all indications were normal. Hmmm. Also, when the panel acted up, the Raymarine ST70 windspeed would depict wild wind speed readouts up to 130 kts when blowing only 10-12 kts.

Round One Dealer Repair: first panel replacement was combined with Isolating the VHF Antennae from the mast...the back glowing LED phenomenon ceased on the Deck Light and the Steaming Light Switches in their off positions. All worked well for about 10 hours, motoring some, sailing some. Ran the Raymarine Radar unit for 20 minutes while motoring at 2400 rpm. Problems resurfaced...

Now getting a back glowing flickering red LED of the Instrument/Nav Power Switch in the off position plus all the wacky LCD voltage, water tanks readouts as mentioned above...and the ST 70 showing wild variances in windspeed.

Any similar experiences out there?

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Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top said:I appreciate the input. The house bank of batteries and the motor battery share the same common ground bus, in fact the house bank's negative parallel cable daisy chains right up to the solo motor battery...from the motor battery to a ground bus bar.

I talked to the VP of Sales at the dealer where I purchased the boat today. They are trying to get Jeanneau to provide a comprehensive wiring schematic since the dealer's is limited (same as mine in my owner's manual).

So, basically we are down to isolating the items/wires/relays that are "hot" when the batteries are switched on...and yeah, the switching of the motor battery to "on" compounds the problem of the LDC panel's glitches/readouts/alarms.

Also weird: my motor "self-started" due to an apparent faulty Yanmar engine panel rocker switch in Dec. 2011 before I took delivery. That switch was replaced. I was told it would be safer to turn my motor battery to off at dock.

I turned the motor battery switch to OFF one night and my friend said "hey, your Glow/Stop rocker switch is flickering! (ALL other switched electrical items off except house battery switch on).

Enough for now
That is funny! If the ground bus of both systems is connected up that should be OK. A flickering light from the engine panel when the engine battery is off could mean they have crossed a wire, connecting a +12V from the house battery bank instead of the engine battery. Or there is a short circuit between the two systems. But probably you had that figured out for yourself.
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Again, if anyone else is having these problems, lets talk. Send me a message/reply here on this post please!

I do understand my dealer has experienced problems with some other new Jeanneau models as of this post...I'm not alone, but we have yet to really identify the "smoking gun" so to speak. I just hope my electrics don't fry out.

This experience has totally soured my new boat purchase.

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